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Raskolnikov
post Apr 18 2005, 09:00 PM
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So they are trying to make SR4 more street level, a laudable goal in my opinion. I and where I play (www.shadowland.org) are large fans of the street. We have characters who are exactly the opposite of street-level running around, true, but with locations like The Hollow Point, Sick Haxx, and such, street mercs (because really, these guys only wish they were sams) are classic fixture of the shadowland character base.

The question however, is will the story support this new street-level push? Most of the emphasis in SR3, even the many of the recent releases, was on big events. Dragons taking over things, runs that pit runners against Tir Ghosts and such, and let's not forget Comets. Will we actually see sourcebooks that focus on Seattle events? Will we see fiction that doesn't have the characters meeting Damien Knight every other day? Because, frankly, the runner on the street doesn't care who killed Dunklezahn, and that story arc was actually interesting. There have been many arcs with huge events that were not and thus devoid of merit for the street game.

Bad anime stereotypes, cartoonish art and writing, and high-powered excited-eight-year-old action-loving runs are all current stumbling stones to this push back to the street.

I hope they actually to grit up SR, but I'm wary. We may end up with cartoon characters who just have less toys than before. Comments?
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- Raskolnikov   Street Level   Apr 18 2005, 09:00 PM
- - Vuron   Well part of the reason I think there was a gradua...   Apr 18 2005, 09:11 PM
- - Ellery   I'm not sure that street level sells as well a...   Apr 18 2005, 09:19 PM
- - Ellery   QUOTE (Vuron)To a lesser extent I feel like this w...   Apr 18 2005, 09:25 PM
- - Vuron   Well I'm okay with there being threats in the ...   Apr 18 2005, 09:53 PM
- - Raskolnikov   I would agree with Vuron, and I think Ellery would...   Apr 18 2005, 11:27 PM
- - Mish   I agree, that some of the large plot lines and eve...   Apr 19 2005, 12:12 AM
- - Ellery   QUOTE (Vuron)Well I'm okay with there being th...   Apr 19 2005, 01:13 AM
- - FrostyNSO   I'm just tired of every heavy hitter or powerf...   Apr 19 2005, 02:04 AM
- - Ellery   Amen.   Apr 19 2005, 02:41 AM
- - Rev   One way to talk big and play little is to make eve...   Apr 19 2005, 02:55 AM
- - warrior_allanon   thats one of the reasons i like how my GM is doing...   Apr 19 2005, 03:00 AM
- - mintcar   Well. I have been doing that too. The step is kind...   Apr 19 2005, 06:17 AM
- - NightHaunter   I've played and run shadowrun at just about al...   Apr 19 2005, 01:41 PM
- - Demonseed Elite   NDA-bound, all I can say on this is that it is bei...   Apr 19 2005, 01:59 PM
- - Raskolnikov   Just tell them to remember, if they have the optio...   Apr 19 2005, 07:33 PM
- - Cynic project   QUOTE (Ellery) Exactly--well stated. But they ca...   Apr 19 2005, 08:14 PM
- - mfb   there was no official military presence. that does...   Apr 19 2005, 08:35 PM
- - Bandwidthoracle   I love the idea of Shadowrun going back to the str...   Apr 19 2005, 08:35 PM
- - mfb   why? you don't have to be rich to live in a 30...   Apr 19 2005, 08:37 PM
- - Garland   No kidding. I kind of assumed most garg shamans l...   Apr 19 2005, 08:52 PM
- - Bandwidthoracle   MitS: PG 158:QUOTE Gargoyle shamans must live in e...   Apr 19 2005, 09:37 PM
- - Vuron   If you've got access to the first seattle sour...   Apr 19 2005, 09:44 PM
- - Bandwidthoracle   QUOTE (Vuron) If you've got access to the firs...   Apr 19 2005, 09:49 PM
- - Vuron   QUOTE (Bandwidthoracle) That is a good point, Doe...   Apr 19 2005, 09:54 PM
- - Garland   QUOTE (Bandwidthoracle)MitS: PG 158:QUOTE Gargoyle...   Apr 19 2005, 09:55 PM
- - mfb   that "requires high or luxury" line does...   Apr 19 2005, 09:56 PM
- - Vuron   QUOTE (Garland) The other GMs I know have taken a ...   Apr 19 2005, 09:57 PM
- - FlakJacket   QUOTE (MitS Page 158)Gargoyle shamans must live in...   Apr 19 2005, 11:48 PM
- - Bandwidthoracle   QUOTE (Vuron) Other ideas would be stuff like the ...   Apr 20 2005, 12:54 AM


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