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post Jun 24 2005, 12:07 PM
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I spent a week getting a challanging run up. By that, I mean worked on it at work and at home. I had maps of the areas, I had a full PLTG set up for the decker. I put security cameras around the hallways, guards patroling, elite corp guards, even a corp mage in the astral plane. I put my team up against a large challange...and they bulldozed over it. They shot down my hard work in less then one hour. The mage used a medium ball lightning and dealt deadly damage to three corp security, and took no drain. The gun user rolled 10 dice on his pistol skill (that's not rolling any combat pool, chummer. That's just his straight dice), duel weilded, and somehow had enough recoil comp, low TN, and range magnification to roll a total of 15 dice on a TN 2. 7 successes on each hit. I added 2 for the second target he shot at, and his TN was still 2 because he had parts, edges, and skills that reduced it normally below two. He takes out two guards with light security armor on in one combat phase. That means that in my one combat turn that 5 guards were down to S or better and the other one was fried crispy.

What am I doing wrong? What are they doing wrong? Why the frag can't
I get this right?! They're suppose to die or something. *shakes head* And when I did get to the deckers part, everyone took a break! They're not suppose to do that! They're suppose to sit there and watch his RP in the Matrix. *groan*
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- CrystalBlue   GM needs serious help   Jun 24 2005, 12:07 PM
- - blakkie   Sometimes The Answer™ is an extra dry Dumpster mar...   Jun 24 2005, 12:11 PM
- - CrystalBlue   Unfortunatly, it is a real post. I'm sorry if...   Jun 24 2005, 12:21 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Jun 24 2005, 06:21 AM) U...   Jun 24 2005, 12:30 PM
- - Modesitt   For the combat portion of your post - The best t...   Jun 24 2005, 12:32 PM
- - CrystalBlue   To the best of my knowledge, these are the ways he...   Jun 24 2005, 01:11 PM
- - Critias   Laser sights can't be used when dual wielding,...   Jun 24 2005, 01:19 PM
- - Slacker   Critias has it right. As a GM, I would never allow...   Jun 24 2005, 01:30 PM
- - Mr.Cato   ..throw in some bad lighting or mist ect. Have the...   Jun 24 2005, 01:36 PM
- - CrystalBlue   Alright. I might have to pull his Aptitude edge t...   Jun 24 2005, 01:42 PM
- - Slacker   Oh yeah, almost forgot Strength 5 doesn't give...   Jun 24 2005, 01:47 PM
- - Slacker   I may be wrong about this since I don't play c...   Jun 24 2005, 01:58 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Jun 24 2005, 07:42 AM) A...   Jun 24 2005, 02:13 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Okay, here's what you do. Guards with 10 init...   Jun 24 2005, 02:14 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   And Blakke - there's nothing wrong with differ...   Jun 24 2005, 02:15 PM
- - Jrayjoker   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) I can't help you on t...   Jun 24 2005, 02:23 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685) And Blakke - there's ...   Jun 24 2005, 02:24 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (blakkie) I still like the idea of tasering ...   Jun 24 2005, 02:25 PM
- - Jrayjoker   QUOTE (blakkie) QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jun...   Jun 24 2005, 02:23 PM
- - CrystalBlue   Yeah. I miscalculated. But whatever he rolled, I...   Jun 24 2005, 02:27 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Slacker @ Jun 24 2005, 07:47 AM) Did t...   Jun 24 2005, 02:28 PM
- - Vaevictis   As for Laser Sights and dual wielding not working,...   Jun 24 2005, 02:27 PM
- - Mr.Cato   elemental manipulation.... remember they work as r...   Jun 24 2005, 02:31 PM
- - CrystalBlue   OK. Those were the first problems with the game. ...   Jun 24 2005, 02:32 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Use environmental conditions to harass and hurt yo...   Jun 24 2005, 02:36 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Mr.Cato) elemental manipulation.... remembe...   Jun 24 2005, 02:37 PM
- - Jrayjoker   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Jun 24 2005, 08:32 AM) O...   Jun 24 2005, 02:38 PM
- - Vaevictis   Remember people, there is absolutely nothing wrong...   Jun 24 2005, 02:40 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (CrystalBlue) OK. Those were the first probl...   Jun 24 2005, 02:40 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Okay... Primadonna-Man should be tazered, I admit....   Jun 24 2005, 02:48 PM
- - Slacker   QUOTE (CrystalBlue) OK. Those were the first probl...   Jun 24 2005, 03:02 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Alternatively, if you LIKE what he does alone, fin...   Jun 24 2005, 03:06 PM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   QUOTE (blakkie @ Jun 24 2005, 09:37 AM) As an...   Jun 24 2005, 03:08 PM
- - Nyxll   I have not GM'd or played in a few years, but ...   Jun 24 2005, 03:13 PM
- - Qillin   Giving the guy 2 different color lasers doesn...   Jun 24 2005, 03:15 PM
- - ShadowGhost   QUOTE (blakkie) QUOTE (Mr.Cato @ Jun 24 2005,...   Jun 24 2005, 03:25 PM
- - Nyxll   QUOTE (Qillin) Giving the guy 2 different color la...   Jun 24 2005, 03:31 PM
- - Yoan   I never start the PC's off too strong (ie: ton...   Jun 24 2005, 03:38 PM
- - Enigma   CrystalBlue - tailor your enemies to your players....   Jun 24 2005, 03:46 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (ShadowGhost @ Jun 24 2005, 09:25 AM) I...   Jun 24 2005, 04:04 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm) QUOTE (blakkie @ ...   Jun 24 2005, 04:13 PM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   Ok, I missed the original line that brought up the...   Jun 24 2005, 04:15 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm @ Jun 24 2005, 10:...   Jun 24 2005, 04:34 PM
- - CrystalBlue   Thanks for the help guys. I just get sick of my c...   Jun 24 2005, 04:36 PM
- - Kagetenshi   One guard with a held action and a shotgun arrange...   Jun 24 2005, 04:37 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (CrystalBlue @ Jun 24 2005, 10:36 AM) B...   Jun 24 2005, 04:47 PM
- - Eyeless Blond   Also regarding the ball lightning: don't forge...   Jun 24 2005, 04:50 PM
- - Spark   other things you can do; 1. use the hell out of c...   Jun 24 2005, 05:01 PM
- - CrystalBlue   What's an initiated mage? And can they cast s...   Jun 24 2005, 05:04 PM
- - Spark   QUOTE (CrystalBlue) What's an initiated mage? ...   Jun 24 2005, 05:16 PM
- - Nyxll   An initiated mage is a mage that has increased the...   Jun 24 2005, 05:22 PM
- - Spark   QUOTE (Nyxll) An initiated mage is a mage that has...   Jun 24 2005, 05:29 PM
- - Tanka   Initiation rules are listed in Magic in the Shadow...   Jun 24 2005, 05:32 PM
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- - Method   Another thing that noone has mentioned thus far is...   Jun 24 2005, 05:43 PM
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- - Spark   QUOTE (Method) Another thing that noone has mentio...   Jun 24 2005, 06:12 PM
- - Nikoli   Also, just how many points did you allow for edges...   Jun 24 2005, 06:13 PM
- - Vaevictis   QUOTE (Method)The fact is it cuts down on accuracy...   Jun 24 2005, 06:19 PM
- - Method   Spark- yes it is evil. But, to be fair, I can...   Jun 24 2005, 06:20 PM
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- - Method   QUOTE (Vaevictis) Keep in mind I'm not saying...   Jun 24 2005, 06:24 PM
- - Nikoli   you don't need off-hand with full ambi   Jun 24 2005, 06:25 PM
- - ShadowGhost   QUOTE (Nyxll @ Jun 24 2005, 05:22 PM) Ie... i...   Jun 24 2005, 06:28 PM
- - Vaevictis   Thinking about it, if the guy argues "logic...   Jun 24 2005, 06:34 PM
- - Slacker   QUOTE (Qillin) i might be wrong on this but you ar...   Jun 24 2005, 06:46 PM
- - Yoan   QUOTE (Method) The matrix aspect bogs down when th...   Jun 24 2005, 06:50 PM
- - Spark   QUOTE (Yoan) QUOTE (Method @ Jun 24 2005, 01:...   Jun 24 2005, 07:14 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Nikoli) Also, just how many points did you ...   Jun 24 2005, 07:27 PM
- - Qillin   yeah there is no offhand ranged weapons skills bec...   Jun 24 2005, 07:27 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (Nikoli @ Jun 24 200...   Jun 24 2005, 07:35 PM
- - Spark   QUOTE (Qillin) yeah there is no offhand ranged wea...   Jun 24 2005, 07:43 PM
- - Method   I give players a max of 5 edge points that must be...   Jun 24 2005, 07:48 PM
- - Method   Of coarse the real key is to not let them take any...   Jun 24 2005, 07:52 PM
- - mmu1   QUOTE (Spark) sorry to ruin that guys fun but I ju...   Jun 24 2005, 07:53 PM
- - Qillin   well with that rule. the guy still wouldn't be...   Jun 24 2005, 07:58 PM
- - Slacker   QUOTE (Spark @ Jun 24 2005, 02:43 PM) sorry t...   Jun 24 2005, 08:42 PM
- - Yoan   QUOTE (Spark) QUOTE (Yoan @ Jun 24 2005, 01:5...   Jun 24 2005, 09:09 PM
- - Nerbert   QUOTE (Critias @ Jun 24 2005, 08:19 AM) And, ...   Jun 24 2005, 09:22 PM
- - Dawnshadow   Alright.. speaking as someone who plays a similar ...   Jun 24 2005, 09:52 PM
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- - Qillin   QUOTE (Dawnshadow @ Jun 24 2005, 02:52 PM) Mu...   Jun 24 2005, 10:30 PM
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- - Vaevictis   QUOTE (Qillin @ Jun 24 2005, 05:30 PM) yeah b...   Jun 24 2005, 10:58 PM
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- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Vaevictis) QUOTE (Qillin @ Jun 24 2005...   Jun 24 2005, 11:37 PM
- - Vaevictis   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Jun 24 2005, 06:37 PM) No...   Jun 25 2005, 12:11 AM
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- - Method   I'm of the opinion that EVERY character (even ...   Jun 25 2005, 12:25 AM
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- - Method   Well certainly nothing just a _little_ bit slower ...   Jun 25 2005, 01:01 AM
- - Vaevictis   Yeah, hmm. Datajack, or 20% more powerful spells....   Jun 25 2005, 01:20 AM
- - Tanka   Even then, if you wanted that annoying wire sticki...   Jun 25 2005, 01:55 AM
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