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blakkie
post Aug 9 2005, 01:30 PM
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I was typing up an addemdum to a post in the rate the logo thread, and it occured to me instead i was typing up what was good about the SR4 cover. Where it is an improvement over the past covers.

First, i'll start by the problem i have with the SR1/SR2 logo. When i first saw it on the FLGS shelf i look like some sort of stylised cow skull leading me to believe it was some sort of western genre game like Deadlands. In a full stuffed magazine rack display that logo at the top is more promenent than the picture below. That combined with the juxtiposition of the Pat Benitar gunfight is probably a very large factor in my passing it by at first.

It wasn't till i started playing SR that it occured to me that it was likely a Troll skull. A logo that relies on that much [edit]inside[/edit] info to gronk doesn't seem like a good marketing choice. Sadly the faux West Coast native "S" is another example of that, but to my eye isn't quite as bad at that. YMMV.

I'll also say that the SR3 cover art didn't do a lot for me either to pick up the game. As has been stated often here, the "cartoony" look didn't really put the hook on me.

The SR4 cover is far from perfect. But at least it better communicates what the game is about than SR3 did, and it doesn't have the logo clash that SR1/SR2 did. It covers the magic, the guns, the knives, the wireless VR, the tech (hoving upside down toaster, etc.), the dirty urban future (VTOL, rat, biomedical waste box, grafetti), the oriental influence (now with a bonus pronounciation Easter egg!), and the crime. It even manages to hint at stealth using the disabled camera top-right, something that is difficult and that the SR1/SR2 cover didn't do. It doesn't cover the shaman/hermetic angle much (maybe when viewing the book-in-hand that snake skull necklace on the troll will help? still weak i think), though past covers only had the knee-feather and Disneyized leather outfit in SR1/SR2 in that respect and that could have easily been misinterpreted as just another fashion victim statement.

EDIT: There isn't any hint at the oriental influence in the SR1/SR2 cover, is there? No trolls, orks, or dorfs either. Just a elve (because they look good when done up as an extra from Lost Boys?) and a wolfman in the background.

The natural placement of all the characters is really what made the SR1/SR2 cover (the second best thing IMO is the detail in the bottom left pile of garbage). The highpoint of the cover sure wasn't the glittering left hand of Pat Benitar. That was certainly a much weaker suggestion of magic, and given the pop cultural times made it more like a funked Micheal Jackson thing.

EDIT: The SR4 troll's casting, while better, looks a bit too much like a shock glove or something. Didn't anyone tell the artist that magic is -GREEN-! ;) Or at least magic has some extra swirlies and effects that are far to inefficient to be mistaken as some tech device.

If only the posing and placement of the 4 runners and the opponents felt more natural on the SR4 cover i'd be inclined to say it was very good job. It isn't the massive draw in flash, but the cover in total does talk about the SR world with less miscommunication to those that don't know the game.
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- blakkie   SR4 cover has it's problems, but......   Aug 9 2005, 01:30 PM
- - Critias   Saying "it could have been worse" isn...   Aug 9 2005, 02:07 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Critias @ Aug 9 2005, 08:07 AM) Saying...   Aug 9 2005, 02:29 PM
- - Mugzy   QUOTE (blakkie) EDIT: There isn't any hint a...   Aug 9 2005, 02:58 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (blakkie) P.S. Someone here mentioned their ...   Aug 9 2005, 04:02 PM
- - Shadow   Blakkie, no matter how much you blindly praise the...   Aug 9 2005, 04:17 PM
- - Birdy   Mugzy, you didn't read much Cyberpunk 2020, di...   Aug 9 2005, 04:39 PM
- - chevalier_neon   QUOTE (Birdy) The US of Punk is the Paria Nation ...   Aug 9 2005, 04:43 PM
- - Mugzy   Birdy - Guilty. Aside from conversations with pla...   Aug 9 2005, 04:55 PM
- - Nikoli   Nah, that would require you to refuse to accept so...   Aug 9 2005, 04:57 PM
- - Birdy   QUOTE (Mugzy) Birdy - Guilty. Aside from conversa...   Aug 9 2005, 05:07 PM
- - Steadfast   Back to the issue at hand, he cover itself should ...   Aug 9 2005, 05:12 PM
- - SL James   QUOTE (Shadow @ Aug 9 2005, 10:17 AM) Now I a...   Aug 9 2005, 05:23 PM
- - Nerbert   Lets see what the cover implies at a first glance,...   Aug 9 2005, 09:05 PM
- - Shadow   Just hop on the 'yes man' train Nerbert, y...   Aug 9 2005, 09:18 PM
- - Dashifen   Okay, I stayed out of it but I'll chime in now...   Aug 9 2005, 09:32 PM
- - the_dunner   QUOTE (Shadow) The cover is EXACTLY what brings in...   Aug 9 2005, 09:55 PM
- - Jrayjoker   QUOTE (the_dunner) QUOTE (Shadow @ Aug 9 2005...   Aug 9 2005, 10:03 PM
- - Nerbert   CNET's top 10 dot com failures. There are som...   Aug 9 2005, 11:06 PM
- - Shadow   Is that like "Patience is a virtue"? And...   Aug 9 2005, 11:08 PM
- - arcady   QUOTE (the_dunner) QUOTE (Shadow @ Aug 9 2005...   Aug 9 2005, 11:11 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Nerbert: -10 points for failure to understand mark...   Aug 9 2005, 11:11 PM
- - arcady   QUOTE (blakkie @ Aug 9 2005, 06:30 AM) First,...   Aug 9 2005, 11:17 PM
- - Glav   I cry for this cover. The street sam's han...   Aug 10 2005, 12:30 AM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Shadow @ Aug 9 2005, 03:18 PM) Just ho...   Aug 10 2005, 12:59 AM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Shadow @ Aug 9 2005, 10:17 AM) 2. They...   Aug 10 2005, 01:06 AM
- - Kagetenshi   Actually, I may not be the one you were talking ab...   Aug 10 2005, 01:23 AM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Actually, I may not be the one ...   Aug 10 2005, 01:38 AM
- - Shadow   QUOTE (blakkie @ Aug 9 2005, 05:06 PM) QUOTE ...   Aug 10 2005, 02:10 AM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Shadow @ Aug 9 2005, 08:10 PM) QUOTE (...   Aug 10 2005, 08:54 AM
- - Adarael   In the world of RPG book covers and technical desi...   Aug 10 2005, 12:23 PM
- - JongWK   QUOTE (Adarael @ Aug 10 2005, 09:23 AM)The de...   Aug 10 2005, 01:26 PM
- - Nikoli   I awlays liked Rifts book covers, especially the S...   Aug 10 2005, 03:33 PM
- - Jrayjoker   I'm a minimalist when it comes to books. Give ...   Aug 10 2005, 04:27 PM
- - Nikoli   Yeah, the hardcover rifts main book was nice.   Aug 10 2005, 05:46 PM
- - warrior_allanon   now i'm gonna say this, and yes i will admit l...   Aug 10 2005, 06:32 PM
- - mintcar   Your opinion probably stinks? Is that bad confiden...   Aug 10 2005, 06:59 PM
- - warrior_allanon   sorry, when i get sarcastic, i get REALLY sarcasti...   Aug 11 2005, 01:15 PM
- - Nikoli   the hidden [sarcasm:dripping] [/sarcasm] tags help...   Aug 11 2005, 01:36 PM
- - mintcar   Or just a smiley might do it. It may be silly, but...   Aug 11 2005, 03:28 PM
- - 2bit   QUOTE First, i'll start by the problem i have ...   Aug 11 2005, 06:47 PM
- - imperialus   one question I would like to ask is how many peopl...   Aug 12 2005, 06:00 PM
- - L.D   I got my GF hooked thanks to the critter pages in ...   Aug 12 2005, 06:09 PM
- - Ellery   I bought SR2 in part because of the cover art. Th...   Aug 12 2005, 06:14 PM
- - Shadow   I bought SR1 based on the cover art alone. I conti...   Aug 12 2005, 07:14 PM
- - Bigity   Damn right. I picked up the game because the pict...   Aug 12 2005, 09:11 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Bigity @ Aug 12 2005, 03:11 PM) Damn r...   Aug 14 2005, 02:25 PM
- - SirBedevere   As you say. One man's COOL is anothers ho-hum...   Aug 14 2005, 03:33 PM
- - Canis   As several people have stated, the primary purpose...   Aug 14 2005, 05:49 PM
- - tisoz   Shadowtech's cover sold me on the book and til...   Aug 14 2005, 07:29 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (tisoz @ Aug 14 2005, 01:29 PM) Shadowt...   Aug 14 2005, 07:48 PM
- - Canis   Though some don’t like to admit it, covers are one...   Aug 14 2005, 07:48 PM
- - Doctor Funkenstein   When it comes down to it, the art department flopp...   Aug 14 2005, 08:08 PM
- - chevalier_neon   You know, I was just thinking to something. For al...   Aug 14 2005, 08:53 PM
- - Canis   I agree with you neon (and I think your English is...   Aug 14 2005, 09:02 PM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (blakkie) I don't find it that obscure a...   Aug 14 2005, 11:23 PM


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