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Should SR4 Arsenal contain vehicle design
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maeel
post Aug 24 2005, 04:01 AM
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Well, many have already voiced the opinion that the lower power setting doesn't suit the gaming style they're used to. The lower power setting also includes vehicles, where the citymaster becomes the topic of your riggers wet dreams...
However the overall powersetting can be easily adjusted by giving players more BP to deal with.
With vehicles it is not that simple. I for myself found the vehicle design rules awesome, and they actually were the reason for me to try to play a rigger, which i still do and enjoy.

Unfortunately i have to admit that riggers have not one of the vehicles in their arsenal that can be found in the books, simply because those just fit for the needs of your Runner/Smuggler/Merc or pirate and that is an understatement.
People especially RPG players and among these especially shadowrun players want to be creative. There is no better feeling than finally bringing that new weapon, cyberdeck, drone or whatever into play and see how it performs.

The plastic warriors and other resources on the internet even on dumpshock are a good example how creative people can be, and how much fun it is for them.

Our beloved developers should know and understand the satisfaction of creating something new......

So i employ you, unless you want shadowrun to become a game of technomancers, mages and adepts only, please reconsider your decision.

Everybody feel free to post his or her thoughts.....
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- maeel   Vehicle design for SR4 Arsenal   Aug 24 2005, 04:01 AM
- - Bandwidthoracle   Honestly, I'd really have to see more of the g...   Aug 24 2005, 04:13 AM
- - Kagetenshi   There's always the SR3 method, in which it all...   Aug 24 2005, 04:15 AM
- - apple   Exactly this is the problem: players and gamemaste...   Aug 24 2005, 06:02 AM
- - maeel   The problem i see is that we will not see freight ...   Aug 24 2005, 12:53 PM
- - the_dunner   QUOTE (maeel) The design rules took up about 20 pa...   Aug 24 2005, 01:17 PM
- - Kagetenshi   It may be the only practical solution, but the ...   Aug 24 2005, 02:39 PM
- - nezumi   I think the poll is a bit biased, but... I don...   Aug 24 2005, 02:45 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Do you play Riggers or other vehicle-oriented char...   Aug 24 2005, 03:20 PM
- - Bandwidthoracle   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Do you play Riggers or other ve...   Aug 24 2005, 03:23 PM
- - blakkie   The poll is extremely biased. So much so that i...   Aug 24 2005, 03:27 PM
- - Darkness   Mmh. That strongly reminds me of the rules in ye o...   Aug 24 2005, 03:51 PM
- - Kagetenshi   QUOTE (Bandwidthoracle @ Aug 24 2005, 10:23 A...   Aug 24 2005, 03:56 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 24 2005, 09:56 AM) QU...   Aug 24 2005, 04:08 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Rigger 3, page 102, first page of Vehicle Design: ...   Aug 24 2005, 04:17 PM
- - Cynic project   QUOTE (maeel) The problem i see is that we will no...   Aug 24 2005, 04:20 PM
- - apple   QUOTE (maeel @ Aug 24 2005, 07:53 AM) The pro...   Aug 24 2005, 04:27 PM
- - mintcar   I donīt care about vehicle design rules. Riggers a...   Aug 24 2005, 04:32 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Because once you start making things up on a grand...   Aug 24 2005, 04:32 PM
- - apple   QUOTE (mintcar) Lets have lots of customization op...   Aug 24 2005, 04:35 PM
- - Blacken   If the rules aren't written in, I'm going ...   Aug 24 2005, 04:52 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Rigger 3, page 102, first page ...   Aug 24 2005, 05:01 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Items added in customization are expressly allowed...   Aug 24 2005, 05:03 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Cynic project @ Aug 24 2005, 10:20 AM)...   Aug 24 2005, 05:07 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Do you play Riggers or other ve...   Aug 24 2005, 05:10 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Each to their own, I suppose. In my experience the...   Aug 24 2005, 05:16 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Items added in customization ar...   Aug 24 2005, 05:21 PM
- - maeel   the design rules are not complex, its simply choos...   Aug 24 2005, 06:17 PM
- - Aristotle   QUOTE (maeel) and customization rules only???? ho...   Aug 24 2005, 06:30 PM
- - nezumi   QUOTE (maeel) and customization rules only???? ho...   Aug 24 2005, 06:35 PM
- - blakkie   The R3 rules are complex through bulk. It isn...   Aug 24 2005, 07:04 PM
- - apple   QUOTE (maeel) the design rules are not complex, it...   Aug 24 2005, 07:49 PM
- - apple   QUOTE (maeel) And customization rules only???? ho...   Aug 24 2005, 07:55 PM
- - blakkie   I consider plot devices within range of a TOW or a...   Aug 24 2005, 07:55 PM
- - apple   And? A normal house is also destructible by the ha...   Aug 24 2005, 08:04 PM
- - maeel   QUOTE nezumi Posted on Aug 24 2005, 01:35 PM ...   Aug 24 2005, 08:07 PM
- - Bandwidthoracle   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (Bandwidthoracle @ A...   Aug 24 2005, 08:08 PM
- - Kesh   QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Because once you start making t...   Aug 24 2005, 08:22 PM
- - Sabosect   QUOTE (apple) And? A normal house is also destruct...   Aug 24 2005, 08:31 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (apple) And? A normal house is also destruct...   Aug 24 2005, 08:40 PM
- - apple   Well, I have to admit, something like 1/2 page cou...   Aug 24 2005, 08:47 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (nezumi)I think the poll is a bit biased, bu...   Aug 24 2005, 09:04 PM
- - Cynic project   QUOTE (blakkie) QUOTE (Cynic project @ Aug 24...   Aug 24 2005, 09:11 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (Cynic project @ Aug 24 2005, 03:11 PM)...   Aug 24 2005, 09:18 PM
- - blakkie   QUOTE (apple @ Aug 24 2005, 02:47 PM) Well, I...   Aug 24 2005, 09:30 PM
- - maeel   but you have to agree that the vehicles in SR3 cor...   Aug 24 2005, 11:37 PM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (maeel) why should only players of mages or ...   Aug 24 2005, 11:39 PM
- - maeel   i know, but i am talkin about the books to come. C...   Aug 24 2005, 11:41 PM
- - maeel   still, nobody has so far told us, which vehicles (...   Aug 25 2005, 08:39 AM
- - nezumi   QUOTE ( mael) my point is the following, there are...   Aug 25 2005, 06:02 PM
- - maeel   sure that would be nice, problem is, up until now,...   Aug 25 2005, 06:18 PM
- - Eldritch   I'd like to see the vehicle design rules stay ...   Aug 25 2005, 06:38 PM
- - maeel   can i marry you ?   Aug 25 2005, 07:31 PM
- - blakkie   I'd like to have one less core book. By going ...   Aug 25 2005, 07:37 PM
- - Eldritch   QUOTE (maeel) can i marry you ? sorry, ...   Aug 25 2005, 08:09 PM
- - kigmatzomat   For the record I am an engineer. I've also pl...   Aug 26 2005, 09:54 PM
- - Kagetenshi   Sensors absolutely care about the rest of the vehi...   Aug 26 2005, 09:59 PM
- - Eldritch   OK Kage, sure - but that's a little deep. Mor...   Aug 26 2005, 10:04 PM
- - Triggerz   QUOTE (kigmatzomat) [...] So I suggest something s...   Aug 27 2005, 03:28 AM
- - maeel   i also like kigmatzomat's approach. it gives ...   Aug 27 2005, 04:06 AM
- - Triggerz   We'll leave him alone until the PDF is out and...   Aug 27 2005, 05:19 AM


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