 LoS and AoE spells |
 Feb 28 2011, 11:34 PM
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A question which just occured to me in the Making the most out of magic thread:
Since people tend to handwave LoS for people behind the caster for counterspelling purposes, do you apply this handwavium to LoS for AoE spells as well? Also, would you ever allow anyone to "edit" themselves out of their own LoS? |
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Mardrax LoS and AoE spells Feb 28 2011, 11:34 PM
Yerameyahu I'll have to consult the actual RAW, but I tho... Feb 28 2011, 11:41 PM Edana Indirect spells are essentially grenades. Direct a... Feb 28 2011, 11:45 PM Mardrax Simsense can override touch as well though... Mar 1 2011, 12:09 AM WyldKnight No, it overrides the sensation of touch. Not the a... Mar 1 2011, 12:10 AM Mardrax Being able to perceive (by sight, touch or astral ... Mar 1 2011, 01:59 AM WyldKnight As in I don't feel myself touching him but I a... Mar 1 2011, 02:04 AM TheOOB A touch spell is channeled via direct physical con... Mar 1 2011, 02:16 AM
WyldKnight QUOTE (TheOOB @ Feb 28 2011, 07:16 PM) A ... Mar 1 2011, 02:54 AM TheOOB EDIT: Double Post Mar 1 2011, 02:16 AM Makki it's the touch of the aura. not skin touch. th... Mar 1 2011, 02:54 AM WyldKnight Didn't say anything about skin. Just saying ph... Mar 1 2011, 02:55 AM Mardrax Alright. Clear.
About the first portion though: c... Mar 1 2011, 04:42 AM Yerameyahu Isn't Powerball a Direct? It's multi-LOS, ... Mar 1 2011, 04:51 AM Mardrax Powerball is a direct spell, with an area target.
... Mar 1 2011, 05:01 AM WyldKnight QUOTE (Mardrax @ Feb 28 2011, 09:01 PM) Y... Mar 1 2011, 06:13 AM phlapjack77 QUOTE (WyldKnight @ Mar 1 2011, 02:13 PM)... Mar 1 2011, 08:15 AM Irion They do not follow the blast laws, as they do not ... Mar 1 2011, 06:54 AM WyldKnight Actually after reading it I believe you're mis... Mar 1 2011, 07:09 AM Irion @WyldKnight
Thats all pre hitting the designated a... Mar 1 2011, 07:45 AM phlapjack77 QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 1 2011, 03:45 PM) @Wyl... Mar 1 2011, 08:10 AM WyldKnight I get it from the 20th Anniversary Edition.
Page... Mar 1 2011, 07:59 AM WyldKnight QUOTE (WyldKnight @ Feb 28 2011, 11:59 PM... Mar 1 2011, 07:49 PM Mardrax By RAW,(as per the passage Wyldknight quoted) phys... Mar 1 2011, 10:55 AM Dahrken While RAW, this leaves some nasty questions unansw... Mar 1 2011, 12:31 PM Brazilian_Shinobi I call shenanigans, I think you are reading WAY mu... Mar 1 2011, 01:40 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Mar 1 2011, 06... Mar 1 2011, 02:15 PM Brazilian_Shinobi QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 1 2011, 11... Mar 1 2011, 03:28 PM James McMurray QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Mar 1 2011, 11... Mar 1 2011, 03:41 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Mar 1 2011, 08... Mar 1 2011, 04:50 PM Brazilian_Shinobi Tymeaus, I know, I was just refering to James post... Mar 1 2011, 05:03 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Mar 1 2011, 10... Mar 1 2011, 05:05 PM Mardrax Like I said, I totally see the point of houserulin... Mar 1 2011, 02:59 PM Yerameyahu Nah. Whatever the RAW fails to say, we all know th... Mar 1 2011, 03:08 PM Brazilian_Shinobi It seems to me, that is exactly what Mardrax is tr... Mar 1 2011, 04:32 PM James McMurray QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Mar 1 2011, 12... Mar 1 2011, 05:17 PM Mardrax The tank would likely resist all damage through it... Mar 1 2011, 04:43 PM pbangarth But indirect combat spells don't need LOS to d... Mar 1 2011, 05:33 PM Aku The area of a breakage should be big enough to fit... Mar 1 2011, 05:45 PM James McMurray Especially since we're talking about air vents... Mar 1 2011, 05:48 PM Mardrax They are. This is why a tank doesn't get to in... Mar 1 2011, 05:57 PM Irion @Yerameyahu
QUOTE Nah. Whatever the RAW fails to s... Mar 1 2011, 06:20 PM Apathy QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 1 2011, 01:20 PM) @Yer... Mar 1 2011, 06:37 PM WyldKnight QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 1 2011, 11:20 AM) .
So... Mar 1 2011, 06:46 PM Apathy I've always thought of Indirect AOE spells as ... Mar 1 2011, 06:32 PM Adarael QUOTE (Apathy @ Mar 1 2011, 10:32 AM) I... Mar 1 2011, 06:50 PM Mardrax *sigh* Let me just recount all RAW has to say on i... Mar 1 2011, 07:14 PM Adarael QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 1 2011, 11:14 AM) ... Mar 1 2011, 07:53 PM Mr. Unpronounceable Blasted lack of nesting quotes:
QUOTE (Mardrax ... Mar 1 2011, 08:11 PM Irion @WyldKnight
No, you did not. Mardrax did provide ... Mar 1 2011, 07:35 PM Dahrken I suggest we introduce a new acronym : RAPW - Rule... Mar 1 2011, 07:38 PM Yerameyahu Again, it doesn't matter if there's a big ... Mar 1 2011, 07:47 PM Mardrax QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 1 2011, 08:47 PM)... Mar 1 2011, 08:31 PM Muspellsheimr QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 1 2011, 02:31 PM) Th... Mar 1 2011, 10:52 PM phlapjack77 QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 2 2011, 04:31 AM) Ye... Mar 2 2011, 02:30 AM Mardrax QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 2 2011, 03:30 AM... Mar 2 2011, 05:11 AM phlapjack77 QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 2 2011, 01:11 PM) I... Mar 2 2011, 05:37 AM Irion @WyldKnight
QUOTE Irion, look above. Just look at ... Mar 1 2011, 07:58 PM Irion Dopple post Mar 1 2011, 07:58 PM Yerameyahu I do agree that, by the crazy AOE-vs.-vehicle rule... Mar 1 2011, 09:21 PM Mr Clock I'm just totally going to cover this with any ... Mar 2 2011, 12:57 AM pbangarth QUOTE (Mr Clock @ Mar 1 2011, 07:57 PM) W... Mar 2 2011, 01:07 AM Brazilian_Shinobi QUOTE (Mr Clock @ Mar 1 2011, 09:57 PM) I... Mar 2 2011, 02:50 AM Mardrax Logic has a bearing when RAW fails to provide a cl... Mar 2 2011, 06:14 AM phlapjack77 QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 2 2011, 02:14 PM) I... Mar 2 2011, 06:31 AM Irion @phlapjack77
First of all "Logic" is ove... Mar 2 2011, 07:32 AM phlapjack77 QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 2 2011, 03:32 PM) @phl... Mar 2 2011, 07:50 AM Irion @phlapjack77
QUOTE You do know, you're basical... Mar 2 2011, 09:24 AM phlapjack77 QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 2 2011, 05:24 PM) Your... Mar 2 2011, 09:53 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 2 2011, 02:24 AM) Well... Mar 2 2011, 02:00 PM Mardrax @Irion: Thank you for pointing out something I hav... Mar 2 2011, 04:37 PM phlapjack77 QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 3 2011, 12:37 AM) My... Mar 2 2011, 04:52 PM Mardrax QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 2 2011, 05:52 PM... Mar 2 2011, 05:27 PM Irion @Tymeaus Jalynsfein
QUOTE You miss a very importan... Mar 2 2011, 04:45 PM phlapjack77 QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 3 2011, 12:45 AM) No. ... Mar 2 2011, 05:20 PM Mardrax QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 2 2011, 06:20 PM... Mar 2 2011, 05:44 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 2 2011, 09:45 AM) @Tym... Mar 2 2011, 08:41 PM Mardrax Right. More iteration:
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein ... Mar 2 2011, 09:21 PM Brazilian_Shinobi QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 2 2011, 06:21 PM) Th... Mar 3 2011, 02:03 AM Mardrax QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Mar 3 2011, 03... Mar 3 2011, 02:59 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 2 2011, 07:59 PM) No... Mar 3 2011, 03:21 AM Brazilian_Shinobi QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 2 2011, 11:59 PM) No... Mar 3 2011, 04:00 AM Mardrax QUOTE (Brazilian_Shinobi @ Mar 3 2011, 05... Mar 3 2011, 04:46 AM Irion @phlapjack77
QUOTE We already have barrier rules
W... Mar 2 2011, 06:25 PM phlapjack77 QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 3 2011, 02:25 AM) It i... Mar 3 2011, 06:11 AM Semerkhet Having waded through this entire tiresome argument... Mar 2 2011, 09:06 PM Yerameyahu Brashiliananigans. Mar 2 2011, 09:15 PM Draco18s This has been going on too long.
This is easy to ... Mar 2 2011, 09:22 PM Mardrax QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 2 2011, 10:22 PM) T... Mar 2 2011, 09:41 PM Yerameyahu I don't think anyone is suggesting that, thoug... Mar 2 2011, 09:41 PM Draco18s QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 2 2011, 04:41 PM)... Mar 2 2011, 09:49 PM Mardrax QUOTE (Draco18s as edited by me for additional emp... Mar 2 2011, 09:58 PM Mardrax QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 2 2011, 10:41 PM)... Mar 2 2011, 09:54 PM Yerameyahu Draco18s: That's the 'launch' bit, not... Mar 2 2011, 09:55 PM Adarael Brazilian ones, at that. Mar 3 2011, 02:37 AM Mardrax I'm not.
Since again the point is raised that ... Mar 3 2011, 03:48 AM phlapjack77 QUOTE (Mardrax @ Mar 3 2011, 11:48 AM) As... Mar 3 2011, 05:41 AM Draco18s So if it forms inside the hollow concrete cube, th... Mar 3 2011, 05:37 AM Epicedion The rules don't say anything to support that e... Mar 3 2011, 05:38 AM Dahrken Now for something a bit different, what happens if... Mar 3 2011, 05:43 AM  |
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