IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

tisoz
post Feb 13 2005, 05:14 AM
Post #1


Free Spirit
*******

Group: Dumpshocked
Posts: 3,948
Joined: 26-February 02
From: Bloomington, IN UCAS
Member No.: 1,920



Does taking the Hunted flaw mean the PC is only going to last a run or two? A borrowed time flaw with a specific enemy instead of a cortex bomb or mortal disease?

I see it more like they are really motivated to find the PC. I look at the stats for the enemy the Hunted flaw applies to (some have argued it applies to all your enemies, but that doesn't make sense when using the game mechanics.) They have Power, Motivation, Knowledge concerning the PC.

Power refers to physical or economic resources that can be used against the PC, things like that. Knowledge refers to what they know about the character and his whereabouts. Motivation seems misnamed to me and may be why the there is confusion concerning the hunted flaw. It does not mean how badly they want the PC. It refers to the degree of retribution they desire.

So in the case of a PC taking the extra enemy flaw and applying the 6 point hunted flaw to that enemy, it doesn't have to mean the NPC even wants the PC dead. Applying the +3 to the new enemy could give it stats of Power 3, Motivation 4, Knowledge 4. The enemy wants to beat the PC to an inch of his life, can barely manage to do it by themself, and has only the city the PC calls home.

What if the enemy is a jilted lover? Maybe Power 1 or 2, Motivation 4, and Knowledge 5. They have almost no resources to bring against the PC, they want to do the PC the way the PC did them, and they know just about everything about the PC.

Unless the PC assigns the enemy a Motivation of 5 or 6 (or explains it as such in his background), the mechanics call for less than death being able to satisfy the enemy. Only at rating 5 or 6 does the description for Motivation even sound like motivation, but it never mentions the level of violence. It is probably death, but not certain death, maybe something as bad or worse. But it never says.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- tisoz   Hunted Flaw   Feb 13 2005, 05:14 AM
- - mfb   indeed. in the case of the jilted lover, there mig...   Feb 13 2005, 05:19 AM
- - Voorhees   Well, it wouldn't be that limiting if all they...   Feb 13 2005, 05:28 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (mfb)indeed. in the case of the jilted lover...   Feb 13 2005, 05:28 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   I've have a runner that's being hunted by ...   Feb 13 2005, 05:29 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Voorhees @ Feb 13 2005, 12:28 AM) When...   Feb 13 2005, 05:30 AM
- - Voorhees   I'm not really sure what you're asking... ...   Feb 13 2005, 05:38 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   I actually just did it by roleplaying, not mechani...   Feb 13 2005, 05:41 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Voorhees) I'm not really sure what you...   Feb 13 2005, 05:41 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0) I actually just did it b...   Feb 13 2005, 05:46 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   A lot of it I leave up to the PC instead of mechan...   Feb 13 2005, 05:55 AM
- - The White Dwarf   As a GM, I rather think its a cop out to allow the...   Feb 13 2005, 05:55 AM
- - Arethusa   Why do you even feel the need to rely on mechanics...   Feb 13 2005, 06:04 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Arethusa) Why do you even feel the need to ...   Feb 13 2005, 06:10 AM
- - Arethusa   QUOTE (tisoz @ Feb 13 2005, 01:10 AM) QUOTE (...   Feb 13 2005, 06:14 AM
- - fistandantilus3.0   QUOTE (tisoz @ Feb 13 2005, 01:10 AM) [....   Feb 13 2005, 06:18 AM
- - hyzmarca   There is much more to enemies than just rank. The ...   Feb 13 2005, 06:24 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Arethusa @ Feb 13 2005, 01:14 AM) QUOT...   Feb 13 2005, 06:25 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0 @ Feb 13 2005, 01:18...   Feb 13 2005, 06:27 AM
- - Arethusa   QUOTE (tisoz) QUOTE (Arethusa @ Feb 13 2005, ...   Feb 13 2005, 06:44 AM
- - mfb   it's not just about writing a story, though. i...   Feb 13 2005, 06:47 AM
- - Arethusa   I'm not saying it is an either/or proposition,...   Feb 13 2005, 06:51 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE (Arethusa) QUOTE (tisoz @ Feb 13 2005, ...   Feb 13 2005, 06:57 AM
- - mfb   i don't think the cops and robbers analogy is ...   Feb 13 2005, 07:03 AM
- - tisoz   If I were the PC with the enemy, I as the player w...   Feb 13 2005, 07:13 AM
- - HMHVV Hunter   I've used the hunted flaw in various ways for ...   Feb 13 2005, 07:24 AM
- - The White Dwarf   Yea at level 6 the enemy involved should be a seri...   Feb 13 2005, 08:22 AM
- - hahnsoo   QUOTE (HMHVV Hunter) has Hunted at -2, representin...   Feb 13 2005, 10:21 AM
- - DrJest   Typically, if I pick a hunted flaw, I will sketch ...   Feb 13 2005, 11:41 AM
- - Critias   QUOTE (tisoz) I dislike playing with GMs who think...   Feb 13 2005, 11:42 AM
- - durthang   I think the need here is not for a hard mechanic f...   Feb 13 2005, 05:23 PM
- - Ed Simons   In a previous game, I was one of four PCs who were...   Feb 13 2005, 06:40 PM
- - hahnsoo   I personally think the Hunted flaw needs to be add...   Feb 13 2005, 07:30 PM
- - FrostyNSO   If any GM has a 1 or 2 player game out there, give...   Feb 15 2005, 01:04 AM
- - Paul   I agree with Arethusa, most of the hunted flaw can...   Feb 15 2005, 01:43 AM
- - Plan B   QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0) I've have a runner t...   Feb 16 2005, 06:58 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic

 

RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 15th June 2025 - 10:48 PM

Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.