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[TheOneRonin]

Sure...Manaball...Armor...Bullet Barrier....these are all common spells for a mage's arsenal. But what other mojo do you toss about when on runs? And more than that, HOW do you use your magic? Does anyone have any new and interesting things they've done with magic while on a run? What about strategies for maximizing the effectiveness of your mages/shamans during the course of the game? Let's here it!

They don't call it "the Talent" for nothing. Show us what you've got!

[TinkerGnome]

There are a lot of great spells, but a couple of the most useful tend to be makeover and sterilize. Who doesn't want to be able to create a disguise in a moment's notice or keep the team from being traced because the sammy caught a bullet and bled everywhere?

[Adarael]

Here's some general theory for you, first off.

Generally, in a run, unconscious and dead have the same basic effect - out of the fight. Ergo, it makes very little sense, aside from intimidation purposes, to use mana or power bolt spells over stun-based spells for general combat. Ergo, get yourself a stunbolt.

Secondarily, get yourself a combat AoE. I use Manaball, simply because if I need to cack off large groups of people I generally want them *dead* and not ko'd, because I'm hard pressed.

Thirdly, get a combat elemental manipulation, for those dity bastards with lots of magic pool or ridiculously high willpower or whatnot. I vote Lightning Bolt. Why? It'll slag drones and electronics even better than it'll slag people.

For the remainder of spells, I'd recommend Heal/Treat, Physical Mask or Imp. Invisibility (depending on your preference), and a horde of just plain odd spells. I started the game with Agonizing Pain, Flare, Influence, and a couple of other wierd ones like Trid Spec and the like. Few people expect you to start cranking off Flares and Control manips in combat, and it can really shake things up - not to mention how effective they are OUTSIDE of combat.

Now, let me talk about Wierdness:

One of the wierdest things I ever did was create a set of force 1 spells for making lighters, as well as a set of similar barrier spells. They were essentially a limited, exclusive flame/lightning aura spells that were touch range, and could only cover one inch per force. This dropped the drain through the floor. What was upside? They were permanent in nature and still had the ability to do damage. The barrier spells were exactly the same, but absorbed damage of those types rather than created it - they were the shielding on the lighter casings so it wouldn't ... you know.. burn a hole in your pants, or something.
Granted, in a lighter (1L) they weren't doing diddly. However, if one were to cast these spells on a handful of bolts and set the damage code to 1D...

1) Caltrops from hell, if people weren't wearing large shoes.
2) Talk about crazy thermographic vision nightmares
3) No more need to pick manual locks - cast the spell on the end of a coathanger and stick it in the lock; the tumblers'll melt pretty quickly.

I figure that's a pretty wierd tactic.

[Adarael]

[Catsnightmare]

After playing a aspected/Sorcerer, I found I got a lot of use out Trid Phantasm.

[Cain]

Makeover and Fashion have gotten me through more runs than all the damaging spells combined.

Your basic Barrier spell has many uses, so much so that I never bother with Bullet Barrier in favor of it. Magic Fingers is so versatile, a creative mage can cause all kinds of chaos with it.

As a general layout, my magical characters have a single-target kill spell, an AoE stun spell, and a great big exclusive Frag You spell for emergencies. The single-target spell is for normal use, the AoE stun spell is for large groups of opposition (Stun is preferred for the reduced drain and if you have a friendly in the target zone); the Frag You spell is a high-force, high-drain spell, usually exclusive for learning, for those times when you have no other choice.

[John Campbell]

[RedmondLarry]

The latest monstrosity in spells in our campaign is

Hail (elemental Ice area affect) with Extended Area and Sustained. Force 7. Drain code +2 +3. Plants wither and die instantly. Moving vehicles make a crash test. (MitS p. 52)

As a sustained spell it can be quickened or placed in a sustaining focus and perform its damage every Combat Turn. As the caster is currently magic rating 9, the extended area of affect covers about 1 city block.

[Kagetenshi]

Healthy Glow all the way, for you Cat Shamans out there.

~J

[Drain Brain]

Fast and Nutrition for all those Wilderness survival types! I know it's in Target: Wastelands but they're also handy for when you're in hiding in the sewer system... with your friendly neighbourhood Drain Brain!

Now... to create a spell to deal with the smell... ;)

[John Campbell]

[Chaos]

my favorite spell combo would be Physical bar. and Levitate. this combo is most effectivly used in a car/bike chase. Just give the mage a simple Physicis knowlage skill and he could do whatever he wanted with the angles and dimentions of the barrier and cars can go flying everywhere

[Sahandrian]

Best spell ever. Negate Strong Nuclear Force. For when you absolutely have to kill every last person in the city.

...who made that one up, anyway?

[Bearclaw]

Favorite spell combo:
Mind probe and Physical Mask.
The security guard NEVER bothers the boss at 1am, does he :D

[Hero]

I tend to use a combination of Imp invisibility and silence when you need to be unseen and unheard, great for those video and audio based security systems. And for when you need to go through a door, and there is a camera watching it, cast trid phantom over the group to give the appearance that there is no body there and the door was never opened.

[Digital Heroin]

[Bearclaw]

Mana barriers don't effect people in cars. They are inside the car so you are attacking the cars aura, not the people's. Guys on a bike on the other hand are screwed.

[Digital Heroin]

Physical objects aren't prone to Mana based spells at all... the vehicle doesn't exist for purposes of the spell...

[Adarael]

[Tanka]

To be totally, totally evil:

Detect (Grenade)
Magic Fingers

You do the math (think Magneto...).

Or, another trick:

Detect (Guns)
Control Actions

"Hey, you've got guns, you're my new friend!"

[Munchkinslayer]

Great question. I flipped through MITS and I was thinkin':
Agony: cuz it's fun
Ball Lightning: "eat that chromey!" see p. 127 of M&M
Influence: jedi mind-trick
Animal (sight): let that guard dog be your scout without alerting anyone/thing with
your physical/astral presence
Catalog: need to know who's on the other side of that door and if he's packing?
Translate: it conveys intent more than actual phrasing making it hard to lie
Cause alergy: "holy crap, I'm alergic to my underpants!"
Hot potato: for both guns and door knobs
Alter memory: "we were never here."
Gecko crawl: handy for a quick getaway
Lock: also handy for a quick getaway
Shape water: handy for a quick getaway from egypt
Fashion: it does not change the armor rating. Why not have your armor look like
a Concrete Dreams Tour '56 t-shirt?

[GunnerJ]

My current character, a Dragonslayer idolist (aspected so he can only cast/summon what his idol give him bonuses for, so only combat spells/hearth spirits), has Boosted 1 which usually gives him two turns. When it does, he typically casts a *bolt spell (whatever the situation calls for), splitting all his spell pool between sorcery and drain, and the next time he goes, he dumps his unused combat pool into shotgunning any nearby targets (he's got a smartlink as well). He's pretty limited in his spells, but by splitting his actions in combet between magical and mundane attacks, he can be very effective, using the full bonuses of both pools. (If he gets shot at and has to spend combat pool to dodge, he just uses a lower force *bolt spell on the second pass, BTW). When he got invoking, his new strategy involves summoning a great form hearth spirit to use its Confuse power on four opponents, and stimpatches (he only has a 4 CHA, so he can't summon anything big, and he usually takes drain).

[RedmondLarry]

I thought Mana Barrier went away 3rd edition. Is there something I'm missing?

[Adarael]

As a standard, spell, yes, it did. However, with MiTS, there's nothing to say you couldn't just create it again.

[RedmondLarry]

Hmmm. Makes sense. So I guess I could create "Elf Barrier" or "Troll Barrier" as well. I like it.