 about the vindicator minigun, i'm confused... |
 Oct 26 2003, 10:07 PM
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when i first bought the canon companion, i was thrilled 2 see that they'd included the minigun in the statistics!
but then came the following dissapointment... the minigun fires 15 bullets/round, no more, no less, and it doesn't take barrel mounts! so my question is: how on earth can this gun ever be fired with even the slightest chance of a hit??? the rules state that all uncompensated recoil modifiers are doubled when dealing with heavy weapons, and the minigun only takes a top and under barrel mount. i've been through every piece of gear in the books, but there was no recoil compensating accesories that could be top barrel mounted. so my conclution was that you could only use one single recoil compensating accesory for the minigon (an under barrel mount), which makes it impossible to get a recoil comensation that would even make a difference! you can't hit anything with this sucker! how can that be??? there must be some use for this weapon... help, please... |
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kenny26 about the vindicator minigun Oct 26 2003, 10:07 PM
Bearclaw The way the SR system applies recoil to the entire... Oct 26 2003, 10:09 PM Buzzed A foregrip can be top mounted. Then again, It alre... Oct 26 2003, 10:10 PM kenny26 well, i was sort'a hoping for some good advice... Oct 26 2003, 10:15 PM Mephisto Use supressive fire... Oct 26 2003, 10:17 PM Siege Although the "no barrel accessories" mak... Oct 26 2003, 10:22 PM kenny26 well, my point is that a minigun kicks major @... Oct 26 2003, 10:22 PM Buzzed I guess you could have barrel mounts, as long as y... Oct 26 2003, 10:26 PM Digital Heroin Two words: Gyro Stabalization
Next thing you... Oct 26 2003, 10:26 PM Siege I think the general concensus was the man-portable... Oct 26 2003, 10:27 PM El_Machinae If you hose multiple targets, then you will have a... Oct 26 2003, 10:29 PM kenny26 i've already mentioned the gyro stabilisation ... Oct 26 2003, 10:30 PM Buzzed Become a rigger and use a drone that you use for l... Oct 26 2003, 10:41 PM John Campbell QUOTE (kenny26) and finally, El_Machinae, i've... Oct 26 2003, 11:00 PM Backgammon Actually, if I'm not mistaken, a minigun is a ... Oct 26 2003, 11:10 PM El_Machinae I'm pretty sure the 2x recoil for heavy weapon... Oct 26 2003, 11:54 PM Cray74 QUOTE (Bearclaw) The way the SR system applies rec... Oct 27 2003, 12:14 AM Lilt Max Gyro (7) + Troll Str (3) + Foregrip (1) + Hip ... Oct 27 2003, 12:16 AM Tziluthi I don't think that you can fire the minigun in... Oct 27 2003, 01:44 AM mfb mounting a weapon on a vehicle negates the double ... Oct 27 2003, 01:53 AM 252 You can use the optional rule for trace fire with ... Oct 27 2003, 02:14 AM mfb yeah, tracers are also a big help. -1 TN per 3 rou... Oct 27 2003, 02:18 AM Cain You're all forgetting about the supressive fir... Oct 27 2003, 02:20 AM mfb skill matters somewhat. after all, you still have ... Oct 27 2003, 02:32 AM Lilt MFB's system is interesting, but it makes it e... Oct 27 2003, 10:32 AM thunderchild In my games (dont know if this is canon or not, be... Oct 27 2003, 11:16 AM Buzzed QUOTE (mfb @ Oct 26 2003, 09:53 PM) a cyberar... Oct 27 2003, 02:40 PM Buzzed It all boils down to the Max Gyro. Remember. You d... Oct 27 2003, 02:47 PM TinkerGnome Seems the common arrangement would be max gyro (RC... Oct 27 2003, 03:15 PM Moon-Hawk Mephisto, Cray, and Cain are all correct. Use sup... Oct 27 2003, 03:21 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (Buzzed @ Oct 27 2003, 05:40 PM) Cybera... Oct 27 2003, 03:24 PM Ed_209a small caliber Miniguns are really nice as a micro ... Oct 27 2003, 03:50 PM Buzzed QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) QUOTE (Buzzed @ O... Oct 28 2003, 01:49 AM mfb austere, that's true if you're trying to c... Oct 28 2003, 02:02 AM sidekick I got a question about supressive fire. Couldn... Oct 28 2003, 05:30 AM mfb smartlink bonuses don't apply to suppessive fi... Oct 28 2003, 05:39 AM kenny26 ok, now i see quite alot of options that it'd ... Oct 28 2003, 09:03 AM Austere Emancipator Motorfirebox, exactly. You'll only every hit w... Oct 28 2003, 09:55 AM mfb true. that's why i prefer my house autofire ru... Oct 28 2003, 10:43 AM Jonah The long and the short of it is Vidicator Miniguns... Oct 28 2003, 11:53 AM Stonecougar A'ight, my .02. RL GE Miniguns are 7.62 NATO... Oct 28 2003, 12:13 PM Lilt QUOTE (Jonah)Also be careful of the six barrels wi... Oct 28 2003, 12:39 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE NO FRAGGING WAY ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE IT MAN... Oct 28 2003, 01:19 PM Stonecougar I still think that even at 2000 rpm the recoil wou... Oct 28 2003, 02:34 PM Austere Emancipator Wrong. Why would you think so? Loads of LMGs fire ... Oct 28 2003, 03:10 PM Athenor Hm. Don't have my books with me, but just wann... Oct 28 2003, 03:44 PM Shockwave_IIc QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)2000rpm with a minigun ... Oct 28 2003, 04:55 PM John Campbell QUOTE (Backgammon) Actually, if I'm not mistak... Oct 28 2003, 04:58 PM Athenor Uhm...
IIRC, every example in the book says that... Oct 28 2003, 06:10 PM Lilt QUOTE (Manual Gunnery @ P151, SR3)For weapon... Oct 28 2003, 06:21 PM Athenor *sighs* Fine, let me get the book...
p. 207, ... Oct 28 2003, 06:46 PM Lilt P207 of what book? That's in the decking secti... Oct 28 2003, 07:44 PM Athenor *sighs* I don't know how I can spell it out be... Oct 28 2003, 08:01 PM Lilt The minor fact is that it's impossible to ... Oct 28 2003, 08:24 PM Athenor You are also thinking that you only get one burst.... Oct 28 2003, 09:42 PM Shadow QUOTE (Jonah @ Oct 28 2003, 02:53 AM)
Also ... Oct 28 2003, 10:02 PM Austere Emancipator That is also a 30mm cannon firing 4200 rounds per ... Oct 28 2003, 10:08 PM Lilt Don't Forget that with each of your extra burs... Oct 28 2003, 10:33 PM Buzzed QUOTE (Shadow @ Oct 28 2003, 06:02 PM) You al... Oct 28 2003, 11:10 PM Shadow Earlier in the thread somone mentioned firing 6 ro... Oct 28 2003, 11:54 PM Lilt Bursts are definately not possible. Walking fire i... Oct 29 2003, 12:14 AM OurTeam When you walk autofire from target to target, the ... Oct 29 2003, 12:31 AM John Campbell QUOTE (Athenor)*sighs* I don't know how I can ... Oct 29 2003, 12:33 AM Phaeton Given that the thing spews out fire at an insane r... Oct 29 2003, 12:34 AM Siege Never mind the insane pucker factor.
Let's fa... Oct 29 2003, 12:55 AM OurTeam Which is why one of my characters carried an audio... Oct 29 2003, 04:00 AM KarmaInferno QUOTE (Jonah) The USA army looked at making one (t... Oct 29 2003, 07:59 AM The Jopp Revamped autofire rules
I was bored so I decided ... Oct 29 2003, 02:27 PM Athenor Just want to add in here:
I never said anything a... Oct 29 2003, 03:56 PM Lindt QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) *snip* On the other ha... Oct 29 2003, 04:00 PM CoalHeart Quoteing Athenor
"Now if you decide to ... Oct 29 2003, 04:05 PM Athenor If that applies to miniguns, then something is ser... Oct 29 2003, 04:10 PM Buzzed QUOTE (Athenor @ Oct 29 2003, 11:56 AM) Just ... Oct 29 2003, 04:11 PM Buzzed QUOTE (CoalHeart @ Oct 29 2003, 12:05 PM) Quo... Oct 29 2003, 04:16 PM easytohate I'm not going to sit here and try to say that ... Oct 30 2003, 06:49 AM TheScamp QUOTE I was wrong about the bucking back on the A-... Oct 30 2003, 07:13 AM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (easytohate)THe BFG that we are talking abou... Oct 30 2003, 01:54 PM Kagetenshi I'd imagine that with a high volume-of-fire we... Oct 30 2003, 02:06 PM Austere Emancipator You're right, and this is partly why I ranted ... Oct 30 2003, 02:17 PM Kagetenshi Houserule time... does the following sound reasona... Oct 30 2003, 04:00 PM Raiko This is how we houserule autofire & miniguns.
... Oct 30 2003, 05:36 PM Austere Emancipator QUOTE 6. If you're using tracer rounds the tn ... Oct 30 2003, 05:59 PM Kagetenshi Sorry, I'd forgotten the Suppressive Fire rule... Oct 30 2003, 06:23 PM easytohate QUOTE (TheScamp) QUOTE I was wrong about the bucki... Oct 30 2003, 06:30 PM Kagetenshi It may not have horrible shake-the-airplane-apart ... Oct 30 2003, 06:34 PM Austere Emancipator I use a system where the amount of rounds in a met... Oct 30 2003, 06:43 PM Buzzed CC pg. 26
QUOTE When activated, the barrels requir... Oct 30 2003, 06:51 PM Siege Yeah, but the second you crank down on the trigger... Oct 30 2003, 06:53 PM Buzzed Ignore this post. Oct 30 2003, 06:59 PM Raiko CC Page 107 (Suppressive Fire):
QUOTE If the atta... Oct 30 2003, 07:22 PM Austere Emancipator Whoops, sorry about that success thingy. But I gue... Oct 30 2003, 07:27 PM TheScamp QUOTE A-10 can fire at full auto even at low speed... Oct 30 2003, 11:58 PM Herald of Verjigorm Two engines at 9,000 lbs each are together less th... Oct 31 2003, 12:20 AM Austere Emancipator QUOTE (TheScamp)The A-10's engines each put ou... Oct 31 2003, 09:05 AM TheScamp Your source. Oct 31 2003, 01:04 PM Austere Emancipator It also says that at 4200rpm, the average recoil f... Oct 31 2003, 01:21 PM TheScamp QUOTE Now, if the A-10 opened up with the GAU-8 wh... Oct 31 2003, 01:58 PM Austere Emancipator Oh, right, so you did. So we agree completely. Wow... Oct 31 2003, 02:15 PM TheScamp Do we get to snuggle now? Oct 31 2003, 08:34 PM
ialdabaoth How absurd and unbalancing would this house rule b... Oct 31 2003, 08:40 PM  |
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