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Well I know that plenty of the players know which dragon and even which Immortal Elf matches which "screen name." However what are the chances that PCs would know. Any GMs take on this subject? I'm just wondering because it may come up for myself in the future and I'm trying to figure out just how easy is it for someone to figure it out. I mean there are hints galore, however can they be sure. I guess they can never be however, I guess I just don't know.

So what are your takes on this.

On a side note I really hope my Game Store gets this sourcebook in soon. I probably am going to have to wait at least another week.

[Ancient History]

There's a fair-to-middling chance. 'course, we're still debating who Loremaster is...

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I was reading a reply from him in Port of a Dragon, and at first he strikes me as Lofwyr, infact from some of the other books I thought he was Lofwyr as well. (People who haven't read the book nod.) him and Orange Queen(Hestaby) argue. Then the other Screen Name associated with Lofwyr pops up the S-K one.

This brings me up to maybe the dragon has a split personality (everyone looks at me crazy.) I totally agree with you guys. That is a crazy thought.

So what is the answer? Well I look at it again a few times, and other passages with Lofwyr and I begin to feel that they both are the same guy. Maybe he was trying to sow some discord. Conspir-I-See, however then you have to figure he is letting out some pretty valuable information.

Okay so he wouldn't want to do it, right. No actually I think not, I don't know if it let's out that much information. It confuses a whole lot of people, perhaps even the dragons. And dragons love to "play chess." What better thing to do to all your opponents both the lowly informed as well as the upper ups, then to add a new side.

All of that aside.

I'm only certain about one thing Loremaster is definately a Dragon.

[Kanada Ten]

First, at least one dragon has split personalities.

Second, Hestaby is known to be Orange Queen to Shadowland reader following Dragons (as Eyebright reveals it). Two or three of Celedry's nicks are known to them as well, as are the three for the dragon of split personalities.

A Dragons 6 test should reveal one per success to the matrix savvy, perhaps Dragons 10 test for the avid dragon fanboy but 'Trix unaware. After Dot6W's Shadowland date anyway. The test could be opposed by a dragon's Charisma if they had been trying to hide it from the start.

But anyway, obviously the "match the IE" is much harder -very few know about (and even fewer believe in) immortal elves, though the skill could be developed in game...

[Shockwave_IIc]

Strange that someone has started this, cos just last night at round about the time 252 started this thread i was rereading DotSW. and was wondering weather there was a diffinative list on who's the dragons, Now granted i've looked a AH's site and he lists a few, but not many.
So can people list the who's who of the dragons, Ill start

Orange Queen- Hestaby
Script-Diver- Celedyr
Far Scholar- Dunklezahn
Ghost in the Machine- Ghost walker?
The Saeder Krupp address- Lofwyr

Now i think i know more but it's late, also i might be getting confused with what they call each other. Please feel free to correct me, or add to the list

[Kanada Ten]

This thread has most of them, IIRC.

[Synner]

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(Wishes he had the book even more), come on guys this is hurting. I know it is my fault for not bugging the hell out of the store owner sooner, but hell ummm. Okay so it probably is entirely my fault.

Can't wait for two weeks from yesterday, oh tech. I just remembered that I work on wedsdays. I have to wait two weeks from this Saturday! Uhhhhh!

[Shockwave_IIc]

Being that i'm rereading DotSW i have a question.

[Synner]

Again there's some relevant shadowtalk in the Lofwyr chapter.

[Shockwave_IIc]

Ah! our good friend Sir tusk!

I don't have the book anymore, so im not sure if it's in there or not. But who was the elf mage that ends up saving Sir tusk's butt when someone tries t hit him?

[Kurukami]

Sean Lafferty, as I recall. He walked in to meet with Kham, Neko, and Dodger right before the hit went down.

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Good news I got Dragons of the Sixth World. Oh it is so beautiful. Oh I like it so much, what great paydata. This is great, I'm all smiles. Ohhh I can't believe the kind of knowledge that a Shadowrunner who visits Shadowland has at his fingertips by 2063. This is so seriously kicking. Oh my gosh <continuality delete>

>Stop jibber jabbering, and start reading slot head.
Captain Chaos,
I am everywhere.

[Pistons]

Hee hee. He said "jibber jabbering." :)

[KosherPickle]

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So that made an impression on others that read Year of the Comet. Impressive, most impressive. Why don't you guys respond to the other new thread.

[Senchae]

Each of the Great Dragons not only has a 'proper' name (Lung, Hestaby, Dunkelzahn) but also some have matrix names, and all of them should have 'dragon' names- the names they are called at Council, for instance. Far Scholar, Gold Master, Wind-Master, Earth-Diver...

Do we know Ryumyo's dragon name?

[Ancient History]

Senchae: No. At least, I don't. But I'm updating that page, so if I run across anything I'll let you know.

[Senchae]

Thanks, I appreciate it.

The background is that one of my PCs has expressed as a slightly early Drake, and Lofwyr and Hestaby are competing for her services (kinda. Long story. It isn't really as munchkin as it sounds. :D ). Hestaby was teaching her how to properly address the Dragons (I decided that when in dracoform she should use their dragon names), and so she got a list of the dragon names... and I discovered only about half of them exist in canon. So I ended up naming Ryumyo, Aden, Rhonabwy, Masaru, Hualpa, Arleesh, and Shwartzkopf.

[ Spoiler ]

Ryumyo - Firecrest
Aden - Speaker of Thunder
Rhonabwy - Starsinger
Masaru - Faircalled
Hualpa - Seedholder
Arleesh - Lifehaven
Shwartzkopf - Deep Sage

Some of them don't make a lot of sense but if you pretend they might be refering to fourth age events, who can gainsay it?

[fistandantilus4....]

I'm pretty sure that Hualpa is Jungle Cat. As in, the one that argues w/ Scriptdiver/Celedyr about protecting the White Tree.
Also, sort of a tangent, Wordsmyth if Ehran the Scribe.

[Lacien]

Dunkelzahn himself would jump onto the matrix without his formal name. In the second edition Paranormal Creatures of North America Dunkelzahn leaves a message stating his interest in the speculative powers of meta humans.

So while in a situation like this it'd be obvious that it was Dunklezahn, but from Dragons of the Sixth World and Survival of the Fittest i was under the impression that while the books explain their formal names, they never really use them with runners or in public. Granted Lofwyr with his S-K avatar is going to lead to some thought, and I wouldn't be surprised if Hestaby let her name slide by.

But I really do think that very few people would know their formal names, because I often gather that the Dragons aren't all flashy, but intelligent. I don't think that they want to always be calling attention to themselves (well... except Lofwyr, but that's only because he is so arrogant and sure of his own power that I doubt he'd care whether people knew who he was).

When it comes down to it, I find that the dragons are either flashy with power, or calm and calculating effecting events from behind another face. The only exception that I can see to this is Dunkelzhan and look where that got him. So while Ghost Walker and Lofwyr have little to fear from others, i think that the rest of the dragons out there learned a valuable lesson from 2058.

I really can't imagine there ever being a situation where runners would amass the sig of all the dragons, because whoever gave that info out is breaking the first rule everyone learns as a kid, don't screw with a dragon.

[Westiex]

[fistandantilus4....]

Pretty close. he toasted himself to empower an item to stop the enemy.
The whole spirit thing was more of a side effect. He didn't even remember he was him.
Check out Ancient History's site. If you wanna know anything about SR's history/background/secrets, it's usually there.



Still wanna know Ryumyo's stupid name :S

[Mortax]

I think I might know who loremaster might be.

Has anyone on this board read the Earthdawn dragon book? I think it may have only come out as an e-file, but I'm not sure.

Anywho, the Dragon that is used as a source for the first half of the book (Vasdenjas) is known as the Master of Secrets. He is also refered to as Loremaster once or twice. I'm not sure he would be that venomace about draconic tradition.

A thought.

[Ancient History]

Mortax: Little problem. Vasdenjas died, and the title of Loremaster was claimed by Dunkelzahn/Mountainshadow. Who at that point is also dead.