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ElFenrir
post Apr 3 2008, 12:20 PM
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Best abuse of a weapon I've known was pretty mild - the dikote'd Barret 121 with a dikote'd underbarrel bayonet fitted. Or various improvised weapons, like flamethrowers from hair spray cans and pocket lighters, or the rapid reaction missile mastery adept who caught and threw back an arrow at the shooter, killing him.


Oh, the hairspray thing, IMO, is just smart. If i had a combustible can of something and no weapon, i'd do that. The dikoted Barret Model, though...uhh...''Swordchucks'' came into my mind as well here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

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And then there was this troll street preacher/combat adept who had this modified ... well, we ruled it'd be a halberd - a pole with a dikote'd cardbord sign that said "the end is near!" He also used to yell that at people before chopping them to bits with hs ... well, sort of halberd.


I could see this in one of those ''Extreme Action'' movies as one of the opponents. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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This so reminds me of that Guy from 'from Dusk Till dawn' ... Sex Machine, I think, and his crotch dual-drum revolver.


Ohhhh yeah. Oh dear. I just got another horrific idea(dear gods i think the Finnish winter has officially driven me mad) of a corporate villian and his 'lackey', a guy who is made to look somewhat like Tom Jones with some....secret attacks...


...and his nickname is ''Sex Bomb''.
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post Apr 3 2008, 12:30 PM
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Uhm, I'd like to have that PM'd, for my collection of insane NPC, if you don't mind ...

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Erm, and to the post above...well it wasn't a weapon per se but there was my ex rocker turned sam who on a drunken bet one night(he has no memory), got a certain part of his replaced with a more mechanical version. (yes, we used this object from the other game in Shadowrun.)

The minidisc player version from Transmetropolitan or the CP2020 no-frills basic variant?
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post Apr 3 2008, 12:39 PM
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No-frills basic. But the GM(it was a REALLY over the top crazed weekend-long campaign-the PCs involved were my rocker-sam, my buddy's insane redneck rigger/sam Dusty Rhoades, an ex-con who ran around in an orange jumpsuit with a heroin addiction and a cyberninja) made it clear i could get some 'mods' for it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

and yeah, ill PM you SB in a bit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Apr 3 2008, 01:35 PM
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Why PM it? Post it up for all of us to use and abuse. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 3 2008, 01:54 PM
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Very well then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

This guy is a little above a starting PC due to him being a right-hand man of sorts; think criminal organization like in an action movie.


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There you go, use and abuse as you wish. I just hope it's in an 18+ game. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Apr 3 2008, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE (suppenhuhn @ Apr 3 2008, 03:40 AM) *
I once had a troll throwing adept that used a dwarven close combat adept as throwing weapon. Mebbe we played too much Blood Bowl before (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)


fastball special, coming up!
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post Apr 3 2008, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE (krakjen @ Apr 3 2008, 06:59 AM) *
A sharpened troll-sized spade.
Using the edge for killing and the flat for stunning (well, with a few broken bones sometimes...)
That was kinda ugly.



hmm, sounds like what german soldiers would do with their trench spade in ww2...

still, troll sized, ouch. that would be up there with a two handed waraxe i guess (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 3 2008, 05:07 PM
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Bullets.

Though, given the character was a Missile Adept, not actually launched using a firearm.

I am certain the cops later on scratched their heads a bit trying to figure out the ballistics.

"Wait, the cartridges were still attached to the bullets when you dug them out of the body?"


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post Apr 3 2008, 05:20 PM
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In our current game: a purse filled with Foamex.

In another game I have a shank made from two plastic spoons and a razor blade.

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post Apr 3 2008, 06:16 PM
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Det-Net: NEt for net gun made out of Detination cord with a motion trigger. Fire det-net trigger turns on, raps around something (or someone *S*) stops moving same speed "BOOOM" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif)
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post Apr 3 2008, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (Balcon13 @ Apr 3 2008, 01:16 PM) *
Det-Net: NEt for net gun made out of Detination cord with a motion trigger. Fire det-net trigger turns on, raps around something (or someone *S*) stops moving same speed "BOOOM" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif)


I salute you, sir.
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post Apr 3 2008, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Apr 3 2008, 06:54 PM) *
hmm, sounds like what german soldiers would do with their trench spade in ww2...

still, troll sized, ouch. that would be up there with a two handed waraxe i guess (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was the inspiration. But they had no troll in the trenches :>
For what I remember, the damage was equivalent of combat axe / mace (stun) with a TN malus.
And of course an Exotic weapon skill: "War gardening" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 3 2008, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (krakjen @ Apr 3 2008, 03:45 PM) *
And of course an Exotic weapon skill: "War gardening" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Damn this gives whole new volumes of meaning to the time tested phrase: "Hey you damn kids get off my lawn!"
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post Apr 3 2008, 08:19 PM
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hmm, sounds like what german soldiers would do with their trench spade in ww2...

WW1. It's in "Everything Quiet ont he Western Front", that novel."

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post Apr 3 2008, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Apr 3 2008, 08:50 AM) *
fastball special, coming up!

...never did this in Shadowrun but in Champions, my character Amber and our "brick", Strong Guy (& no, his name wasn't Guido though he did have rather stylish tastes) worked up a variant of the Fastball Special as a co-ordinated attack. SG would pick Amber up and chuck her at bad guy #1 who of course would brace for the incoming attack. Being a teleporter Amber would bamf and reappear a few feet from, say, bad guy #3 (who was totally unprepared) at full velocity and throw a martial punch or kick in in to boot.

...the GM hated us.
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post Apr 3 2008, 08:27 PM
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Funny. My fourth character was a troll called Brutus who'd use a dwarf called Cannonball as a ranged weapon. Melee dwarf adept, throwing weapons troll adept. Both former circus artists.

Yes, both me and the dwarf player really were into X-Men back then.
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post Apr 3 2008, 08:41 PM
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Had a troll character in SR3, part of the mission was to go into a secure facility. Lots a sec troops, and very straight linear hallways.

Asked the GM on the size/dimensions of the hallways, all were the same, doors were slightly smaller than the hallways.

Went to a Naval Shipyard, had rectangular square of ~3 inch armor plate, cut to the size of the hallways less 2 inches on each side, had wheels installed on the lower part. Handles at large Troll level, and a second set at Dwarf height, each set of handles had a dual set of triggers for claymore charges on the front part of the "Shield".

One we entered, troll grabbed his set of handles, dwarf grabbed his set of handles, then charged down the hallway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) Sec Guards fire could not penetrate "Shield" it also provided full cover for Troll, Dwarf and rest of party. 500+ pounds of armor plated "Shield" being driven/pushed by a Very Large Troll and large Dwarf, meeting trapped Sec forces, messy to say the least.

Our Team met the challenge in a way the GM did not foresee, at the end used the "Shield" to batter down the last door where the evil guy was, Troll fell down on top of Shield, Dwarf ran over Troll's back to use his large axe on Bad Guy. Bad Guy was surprised to say the least. Dwarf killed him before he got any spells off.

GM made sure we did not get out with "Shield" or let us ever build another. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

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post Apr 3 2008, 08:43 PM
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The last campaign I was in started off really gritty, and my character had to go a few sessions before he'd saved up enough money for a gun. So before that happened, he'd stolen a some packets of hot sauce from a fast food joint. Later in the evening, when the Star was harrassing us, this stupid pig got some Fire in his eye, and we cheesed (one of the other characters got his gun, too). After that, it was kind of a running gag whenever our characters were eating. The GM would ask "Ok, CircuitBoy, how spicy do you like your food?" and I'd reply "Spicy enough to give a cop +4 to his target number, if they have it." Eventually, it turned into CircuitBoy eating primarily Ork cuisine.
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post Apr 3 2008, 10:07 PM
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i just found my ganger-troll again . . he used his bealt and his vest as weapons . . his belt consisted of approximatly 2meters of woven leather and his vest was adorned with 2m of chain that looked like decorative stuff but actually was a Chain-whip held onto the vest by some hooks . . and in the pokets he had one handle, one ball and one sickle so he could use it as a modular kusarigama or however that thing is spelled . . and i think he had his tusks and horns replaced with artificial ones that were not retractable but looked like the natural things, so he was basically allways armed and had his weapons out in the open and nobody was the wiser *g*
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QUOTE (hermit @ Apr 3 2008, 10:19 PM) *
WW1. It's in "Everything Quiet ont he Western Front", that novel."


quite possible, but i could have sworn that said spade was still a part of the standard gear in ww2. and tricks like that never die...


but i stand corrected anyways (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 3 2008, 11:09 PM
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I could point out that the Spetznatz still train with their entreching tools over, say, bayonets for armed CQB. Certainly makes sense from a logistics standpoint. I mean if they are goign to carry a shovel that is a good weapon anyway, why bother to give them knives?
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post Apr 3 2008, 11:16 PM
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You know I hear about the magical entrenching tool in RPGs. Specifically, the dangerous entrenching tool that is used by the Soviet Spetznaz to kill sentries at 20 yards.

While the entrenching tool is a fantastic weapon when sharpened, and used by the Germans, Finns, and Russians to kill.

I still would like to see some actual documentation about its commonality as a weapon.

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post Apr 3 2008, 11:36 PM
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I suppose it could be used to kill at 20 yards, but then we're talking a 'brett favre' arm then...

Like any other CQB training, its a case of last resort. I do expect that for those trained its a bit more likely to see use than, say, Bayonet Drills (which I KNOW the army still teaches...)

I'll check my 'Bear goes over the mountain' and see if any mention is made of its use in afghanistan (not holding my breath).


To bad you didn't ask for documentation that the Spetznatz practice their hand to hand techniques on bound prisoners. That I HAVE seen actual documentation on (including photos of training in progress... ouch.)

Its a weapon of last resort, just a bit more sensible than the bayonet in today's militaries.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrenching_tool

one finds the strangest things on wikipedia. still, take it for what its worth...
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QUOTE (WearzManySkins @ Apr 3 2008, 04:41 PM) *
GM made sure we did not get out with "Shield" or let us ever build another. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

WMS


Really, the fact that none of those security guys had any sort of grenades, gas or otherwise, is kind of odd. Or that gas vents weren't pumping in neurostun-V or whatver it was in those days.
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