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Absorption
Most people can pick out the problem with this metamagic right away: it depends on you getting attacked first. Talk about your passive-aggressive mentalities. As should come to no surprise, most of the characters that make best use of Absorption are champion trash-talkers, bluffers, and plain ol' assholes trying to get the other side to take the magical equivalent of the first swing and then breaking out the mystic judo.

Now, let me pick out the problem most people don't get: Absorption requires you to get hit by a spell. If the other magician calls on a spirit or decides to use her adept abilities to kick your butt, you're hosed! This is one of the reasons Absorption is popular in the magical dueling circuit; the comfortable knowledge that the other guy really is going to aim a spell at you instead of using his projectile spur or something.

Totally aside, if you do ever get a cyberspur enchanted as a weapon focus and get it implanted - don't make it a projectile spur. You'll just have to go retrieve the damn thing, which defeats the entire purpose of the exercise in getting it implanted in the first place.

Channeling
Channeling is like going to a time-share to find out there's been a mix up and some other family is there too, but both of your are too polite to insist the other leave so you just have this awkward crowded time. The nice thing about channeling is that when you're not turning on the energy aura or anything, it can be very discreet, with many handy spirit powers occuring with little if any evidence of use - as opposed to spells which are a touch more obvious in this edition than before.

Cleansing
Understand, the shadowrunner magician with Cleansing is not an astral janitor - they're a cleaner. If I had a choice of trying to wipe away all the astral signatures after even a short combat session one at a time or en masse, believe me when I say I'll get out the Cleansing mop and go-to.

Flexible Signature
I still think this is unbelievably cool. It's the mystical equivalent of being able to sign somebody else's checks. The possibilities are many, but they rely on two things: 1) not being caught doing it, and 2) having a fair number of astral signatures available. The canny magician might keep an "autograph book" of flexible signatures using an astral camera, but I honestly don't expect most players to go through that much hassle. I should like to remind players and gamemasters to keep their lies consistent. As with most skills based on duplicity, one slip not only reveals your ability, it reveals you're not who you're pretending to be. Sloppy, sloppy.

Masking
If you're playing a mundane, act stupid but don't act stupid. In other words, feign ignorance to magic and keep your foci off unless you have Extended Masking and can cover them up too.

Psychometry
The best habit to develop with psychometry is easily-discarded clothing, the reason being that you want very quick access to anything you want to scan, but if you're using Psychometry at all routinely you'll have realized that not everything is good to touch. I've lost count of the contact-poison-for-psychometrists-traps I've set and watched players blunder into.

Anyway, gloves are good - very Bester from Bablyon 5, but workable - but secretly I like flip-flops. Given that most people will hold your gaze if you look them in the eye while talking to them, a skilled psychometrist/face can slip out of their flip-flops and scan the floor of the scene very easily. Also works a treat for places where tradition demands you take your shoes off.

Quickening
If I was a player character, I wouldn't advertise this ability, but then I'm the kind of player that hides their character sheet so other people won't know what I really can and cannot do. The reason I mention this is purely practical however: it keeps the demand down. You see this a lot in Other Games, but as soon as the magician gets the ability to lay on a permanent spell effect all the other players start begging them for it...and the other players even get insulted when you want to charge them! Karma doesn't grow on trees, y'all.

Sensing
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Sensing is as much a GM tool as a PC power. It's the magical equivalent of Spiderman's Spidey-Sense going off to some cosmic whatsit downtown and forcing him to investigate. If anyone really had this power, they'd calmly note that the astral equivalent of a volcano was erupting downtown and head in the exact opposite direction as fast as their feet or in-line skates could carry them.
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- Ancient History   Metamagic Habits   Sep 14 2008, 03:11 AM
- - KCKitsune   OK, very quick stupid question (just wanting to ve...   Sep 14 2008, 04:20 AM
- - DTFarstar   I love threads like this. You should do this for a...   Sep 14 2008, 06:37 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Ancient History @ Sep 13 2008, 09...   Sep 14 2008, 06:58 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 13 2008, 11...   Sep 14 2008, 03:11 PM
- - Ryu   Can we have another Book Club, what with the frequ...   Sep 14 2008, 01:03 PM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE The nice thing about channeling is that when...   Sep 14 2008, 02:15 PM
- - DTFarstar   I thought you needed extended masking to mask anyt...   Sep 14 2008, 04:22 PM
- - masterofm   On Absorption - can't you just have a spirit t...   Sep 14 2008, 04:34 PM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE It's not quite that bad. If you have Mas...   Sep 14 2008, 05:22 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (HappyDaze @ Sep 14 2008, 09:22 AM)...   Sep 14 2008, 05:35 PM
- - Ryu   Shared first place goes to Flexible Signature. Shi...   Sep 14 2008, 05:41 PM
- - HappyDaze   QUOTE Not if you have Masking... and as I said ear...   Sep 14 2008, 05:44 PM
- - Cain   The thing about Masking is this: there is no other...   Sep 15 2008, 03:06 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   I wouldn't say Masking is a necessity for a ru...   Sep 15 2008, 03:26 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE I wouldn't say Masking is a necessity fo...   Sep 15 2008, 04:15 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Why does your fake SIN have to say "mundane...   Sep 15 2008, 04:19 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 14 2008, 09...   Sep 15 2008, 04:31 AM
- - masterofm   I was under the impression your SIN was just a num...   Sep 15 2008, 04:38 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (masterofm @ Sep 14 2008, 09:38 PM)...   Sep 15 2008, 04:58 AM
- - masterofm   A Social Security number is given to you at your b...   Sep 15 2008, 05:02 AM
- - Cain   There's debate as to rather or not you're ...   Sep 15 2008, 05:52 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   For niche characters like Free Spirits or Infected...   Sep 15 2008, 06:11 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 14 2008, 10...   Sep 15 2008, 01:37 PM
|- - Halabis   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 15 2008, 08:37 AM) If y...   Sep 15 2008, 06:28 PM
- - Sir_Psycho   Well depending on rules interpretation, a "Ma...   Sep 15 2008, 09:04 AM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Sir_Psycho @ Sep 15 2008, 04:04 AM...   Sep 15 2008, 06:14 PM
- - hyzmarca   But 99 out of 100 individual will have no way of k...   Sep 15 2008, 02:40 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Sep 15 2008, 05:40 PM) ...   Sep 15 2008, 06:05 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Sep 15 2008, 07:40 AM) ...   Sep 15 2008, 07:36 PM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 15 2008, 03:36 PM) You ...   Sep 15 2008, 07:57 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE But that's now. In 2070, you need to go ...   Sep 15 2008, 07:48 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Saito is gone and TT is under new management...   Sep 15 2008, 08:17 PM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 15 2008, 03:17 PM) With...   Sep 15 2008, 08:27 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Sep 15 2008, 11:27 PM) ...   Sep 15 2008, 08:36 PM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Mäx @ Sep 15 2008, 03:36 PM) Lone...   Sep 15 2008, 11:27 PM
- - Tarantula   Your watcher arguement holds little weight too. T...   Sep 15 2008, 08:48 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   But having a magic rating != being a mage. E...   Sep 15 2008, 09:05 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Sep 15 2008, 02...   Sep 15 2008, 09:24 PM
|- - Mr. Unpronounceable   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 15 2008, 09:24 PM) Astr...   Sep 15 2008, 09:43 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Given that magical status is a genetic condi...   Sep 15 2008, 09:16 PM
- - Mr. Unpronounceable   If I'm doing the math right, approximately: a...   Sep 15 2008, 09:27 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Sep 15 2008, 02...   Sep 15 2008, 10:04 PM
|- - Mr. Unpronounceable   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Sep 15 2008, 10:04 PM)...   Sep 16 2008, 03:41 AM
- - Athanatos   Would anyone really be that stupid? My elven magic...   Sep 15 2008, 09:34 PM
- - Cain   QUOTE Did I bring up a spirit? No - just (relative...   Sep 15 2008, 10:37 PM
- - Tarantula   Crit glitch is not distracted by a penny, it'd...   Sep 15 2008, 10:41 PM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Sep 15 2008, 02:41 PM)...   Sep 15 2008, 10:50 PM
- - Tarantula   Yes, bad for him on the assensing test. Not ...   Sep 15 2008, 10:55 PM
- - masterofm   Close Hyzmarca. You don't need a license for ...   Sep 15 2008, 11:53 PM
- - Tarantula   Even if they check 100 times, it'll be almost ...   Sep 16 2008, 12:15 AM
- - Cain   That's why you have 3+ watchers do it. That...   Sep 16 2008, 01:40 AM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 15 2008, 09:40 PM) That...   Sep 16 2008, 02:10 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE The issue isn't the critical botch, but ...   Sep 16 2008, 02:37 AM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 15 2008, 10:37 PM) That...   Sep 16 2008, 02:59 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Sep 15 2008, 06:59 PM) ...   Sep 16 2008, 03:42 AM
- - masterofm   Yes with a successful assensing attempt. A force ...   Sep 16 2008, 04:24 AM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Why are you using Watchers for this anyway? They...   Sep 16 2008, 05:42 AM
|- - Cain   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 15 2008, 10...   Sep 16 2008, 05:59 AM
|- - Dr. Funkenstein   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 16 2008, 12:59 AM) Watc...   Sep 16 2008, 06:16 AM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 16 2008, 07...   Sep 16 2008, 07:53 AM
- - masterofm   How many watchers can you send out in 4th ed? I t...   Sep 16 2008, 06:04 AM
- - Cain   QUOTE (masterofm @ Sep 15 2008, 11:04 PM)...   Sep 16 2008, 08:18 AM
- - Zaranthan   You can't have your cake and eat it, too, Cain...   Sep 16 2008, 02:37 PM
- - masterofm   It's not that 1 or 3 watcher spirits will be b...   Sep 16 2008, 03:07 PM
- - Earlydawn   Logically, the "on-call" mage who may be...   Sep 16 2008, 03:12 PM
- - crizh   I can't even remember how you guys started fig...   Sep 16 2008, 04:19 PM
- - Tarantula   It sees you as its creator, but the foci still hav...   Sep 16 2008, 04:58 PM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Sep 16 2008, 05:58 PM)...   Sep 16 2008, 05:28 PM
- - Tarantula   I think thats more a funciton of having an actual ...   Sep 16 2008, 05:35 PM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Sep 16 2008, 06:35 PM)...   Sep 16 2008, 05:40 PM
- - Tarantula   Its c'est ne pas. And no. It can't diffe...   Sep 16 2008, 05:42 PM
- - crizh   [Apologies for the rubbish French, I usually do Ge...   Sep 16 2008, 05:49 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 16 2008, 10:49 AM) [Ap...   Sep 16 2008, 06:34 PM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Sep 16 2008, 07:34 PM)...   Sep 16 2008, 06:50 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 16 2008, 09:50 PM) ......   Sep 16 2008, 07:02 PM
- - Cain   After examining the rules, it seems that it was in...   Sep 16 2008, 06:05 PM
- - Tarantula   No, it isn't. Because spoofing IS sending ord...   Sep 16 2008, 07:00 PM
- - crizh   You are missing the point. If that were true you ...   Sep 16 2008, 07:10 PM
- - Tarantula   Crizh, unless you can't. Because magic dosen...   Sep 16 2008, 07:16 PM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (SR4, 185)"Mana barriers do not affect ...   Sep 16 2008, 07:32 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   Actually, no, not everyone would use such a ward. ...   Sep 16 2008, 07:22 PM
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|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 16 2008, 12:46 PM) A M...   Sep 16 2008, 08:04 PM
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||- - crizh   QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 16 2008, 09:11 PM) Actu...   Sep 16 2008, 08:14 PM
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|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 16 2008, 01:15 PM) And...   Sep 16 2008, 08:16 PM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Street Magic, p124)The most covert way of b...   Sep 16 2008, 08:34 PM
|- - Tarantula   QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 16 2008, 01:34 PM) Bec...   Sep 16 2008, 08:35 PM
||- - crizh   QUOTE (Tarantula @ Sep 16 2008, 09:35 PM)...   Sep 16 2008, 08:49 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 16 2008, 11:34 PM) Bec...   Sep 16 2008, 08:40 PM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Mäx @ Sep 16 2008, 09:40 PM) Beco...   Sep 16 2008, 08:51 PM
- - Dr. Funkenstein   That would require wards to be sentient. They hav...   Sep 16 2008, 07:38 PM
|- - crizh   QUOTE (Dr. Funkenstein @ Sep 16 2008, 08...   Sep 16 2008, 07:47 PM
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