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post May 21 2009, 03:40 AM
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Since my campaign takes place in Seattle the nuyen is our primary currency. Unfortunately I have very little information on how the currency works.

Here's what I know:
  1. Nuyen has digital signatures. (pg 124 Sprawl Survival Guide)
  2. "The only way to counterfeit nuyen is to copy an existing certified credstick." (Forgery rules, pg 95 Unwired)


Here's what I need to know:
  1. What media can nuyen be stored on? Banks and credsticks only or anything which has memory.
  2. If you can store nuyen on anything, say an optical chip or a commlink, why would you specifically need a certified credstick for forgeries?
  3. If nuyen can be stored on any storage media then how is nuyen stored? One file per nuyen?
  4. Is every single nuyen tracked and by whom?
  5. If I steal "Nuyen A" from Bank #1 can I deposit it in Bank #2? Or is that nuyen somehow flagged as stolen?
  6. Similar to the above, say I hold up a fellow and transfer his money to a certified credstick. If he reports that money as stolen, is the nuyen flagged as stolen?
  7. If nuyen can be flagged as stolen what stops people (Mr J) from paying people and they saying that money was stolen? And professionalism isn't enough; half the time they try to kill you.
  8. Can you move nuyen from a bank account to credsticks or can this only be done by the bank that issues the credstick? The reason that I ask this is banks use to charge (and possibly still do) charge fees for certified credsticks equal to 10% of what went on the credsticks.


I know I'm missing a few questions but this is a good starting place. Please leave references for your post if at all possible. The more facts the better.
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- Ayeohx   The Nature of Digital Currency   May 21 2009, 03:40 AM
- - Ancient History   A note: SR hasn't published oodles on the nuye...   May 21 2009, 04:28 AM
- - Ayeohx   Awesome, thanks for taking the time to answer Anci...   May 21 2009, 08:39 AM
|- - Ancient History   QUOTE (Ayeohx @ May 21 2009, 08:39 AM) I...   May 21 2009, 01:50 PM
|- - Chibu   QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 21 2009, 08...   May 21 2009, 03:25 PM
|- - deek   QUOTE (Chibu @ May 21 2009, 11:25 AM) We...   May 21 2009, 03:37 PM
- - Chibu   Huh, well that's silly. (Please note, I am in ...   May 21 2009, 11:59 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (Ayeohx @ May 21 2009, 04:40 AM) Th...   May 21 2009, 12:07 PM
- - Ancient History   We haven't gone into it in great detail, but t...   May 21 2009, 03:43 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 21 2009, 07...   May 21 2009, 03:53 PM
- - DireRadiant   Money isn't a physical object anymore. (Unless...   May 21 2009, 04:13 PM
- - Ayeohx   Ok, so after checking SR3 I see that certified cre...   May 21 2009, 05:54 PM
|- - DireRadiant   QUOTE (Ayeohx @ May 21 2009, 12:54 PM) @D...   May 21 2009, 06:18 PM
- - kigmatzomat   Oh. Oh no. It's back. Crap. Unless there...   May 21 2009, 08:08 PM
- - kzt   You need to push the "I believe" button....   May 21 2009, 08:25 PM
|- - The Jake   QUOTE (kzt @ May 21 2009, 08:25 PM) You n...   May 21 2009, 09:02 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (kzt @ May 21 2009, 12:25 PM) You n...   May 21 2009, 09:07 PM
|- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (BlueMax @ May 21 2009, 10:07 PM) b...   May 21 2009, 09:20 PM
- - Draco18s   Think of digital nuyen as being a file that contai...   May 21 2009, 09:40 PM
|- - Ancient History   QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 21 2009, 09:40 PM) ...   May 21 2009, 09:42 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 21 2009, 01...   May 21 2009, 09:53 PM
|- - Method   QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 21 2009, 02...   May 22 2009, 06:36 AM
- - GreyBrother   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ May 21 2009, 11...   May 21 2009, 09:42 PM
- - KitsuneKaze   I must admit to the sheer stupidity of the nuyen ...   May 21 2009, 10:32 PM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (KitsuneKaze @ May 21 2009, 04:32 P...   May 21 2009, 11:44 PM
|- - KitsuneKaze   QUOTE (kzt @ May 22 2009, 09:44 AM) It...   May 22 2009, 01:00 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (KitsuneKaze @ May 21 2009, 07:00 P...   May 22 2009, 03:01 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   And if you have OTP on cred sticks by god why don...   May 22 2009, 12:52 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Actually swiss bank accounts are slowly but surely...   May 22 2009, 01:17 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ May 21 2009, 06:17...   May 22 2009, 01:30 AM
- - Ancient History   1) It would negate half the point of credsticks 2)...   May 22 2009, 12:17 PM
- - Ayeohx   I do not deny that Ancient knows what he/she is ta...   May 23 2009, 03:14 AM
- - BlueMax   Better yet, who would use a fiat currency in a cha...   May 23 2009, 03:25 AM
- - Ayeohx   I think I understand what you mean BlueMax and I b...   May 23 2009, 03:46 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Ayeohx @ May 22 2009, 09:46 PM) I...   May 23 2009, 04:05 AM
|- - Writer   QUOTE (Ayeohx @ May 22 2009, 10:46 PM) I...   May 23 2009, 05:24 AM
- - Method   BlueMax: What is that from? Looks like it would b...   May 23 2009, 04:20 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Method @ May 22 2009, 09:20 PM) Bl...   May 23 2009, 04:27 AM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (BlueMax @ May 23 2009, 06:27 AM) A...   May 23 2009, 06:41 AM
- - Method   Cool thanks. I found the entire essay here if any...   May 23 2009, 04:41 AM
|- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (Method @ May 22 2009, 11:41 PM) Co...   May 23 2009, 04:59 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ May 23 2009, 06:59...   May 23 2009, 05:29 PM
|- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 23 2009, 12:29 PM)...   May 24 2009, 03:05 AM
- - Ayeohx   Thanks gang, I think I've got all the info I n...   May 23 2009, 05:58 AM
- - Heath Robinson   I was willing to leave this alone. I mean, there...   May 23 2009, 10:42 AM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ May 23 2009, 02:4...   May 23 2009, 01:11 PM
|- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (BlueMax @ May 23 2009, 02:11 PM) H...   May 23 2009, 04:26 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ May 23 2009, 08:2...   May 23 2009, 04:39 PM
|- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (BlueMax @ May 23 2009, 05:39 PM) A...   May 23 2009, 07:10 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ May 23 2009, 11:1...   May 23 2009, 07:40 PM
- - hobgoblin   Iirc, nuyen is supposedly backed by the stock valu...   May 23 2009, 01:28 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 23 2009, 05:28 AM)...   May 23 2009, 01:56 PM
- - Ancient History   You can do that in Feral Chicago.   May 23 2009, 02:02 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 23 2009, 07...   May 23 2009, 02:12 PM
- - hobgoblin   I wish the original creator of that nuyen article ...   May 23 2009, 02:40 PM
- - Ancient History   If it makes anyone feel any better, as a young fre...   May 23 2009, 04:25 PM
- - Ancient History   I'm just going to restate that many of these q...   May 23 2009, 04:41 PM
|- - BlueMax   QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 23 2009, 08...   May 23 2009, 05:08 PM
- - Nath   Friedrich Hayek and Murray Rothbard would be the g...   May 23 2009, 06:45 PM
|- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Nath @ May 23 2009, 08:45 PM) Frie...   May 23 2009, 07:33 PM
- - Ancient History   Don't await it too eagerly, it was written by ...   May 23 2009, 07:50 PM
- - hobgoblin   or the shares could be a payment/gift so to get a ...   May 24 2009, 10:58 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Yeah, but as the CC doesn't own its own shares...   May 24 2009, 01:07 PM
- - Heath Robinson   You're forgetting that corps can just issue ne...   May 24 2009, 01:32 PM
- - Nath   When a megacorporation becomes a Corporate Court m...   May 24 2009, 01:39 PM
- - FrankTrollman   The books are frankly incredibly vague as to what ...   May 24 2009, 08:35 PM
|- - Zormal   QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ May 24 2009, 11:35...   May 24 2009, 08:44 PM
- - Marshwiggle   I like the touch of low capacity data lines for nu...   May 25 2009, 12:16 AM
- - kzt   The idea that you can "check on the owner...   May 25 2009, 02:47 AM
- - Marshwiggle   You just need a trillion trillion trillion trillio...   May 25 2009, 03:09 AM
- - kzt   The issues essentially boil down to 6 issues 1) H...   May 25 2009, 03:36 AM
|- - Ancient History   QUOTE (kzt @ May 25 2009, 03:36 AM) 1) Ho...   May 25 2009, 04:01 AM
||- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 25 2009, 12...   May 25 2009, 08:46 AM
|- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (kzt @ May 25 2009, 04:36 AM) 1) Ho...   May 25 2009, 05:18 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE You deal in something other than electronic ...   May 25 2009, 04:14 AM
|- - Ancient History   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ May 25 2009, 04:14...   May 25 2009, 04:21 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   What I don't get is how A and B can be true at...   May 25 2009, 04:37 AM
- - kzt   Yup. And the answer to how banks securely work to...   May 25 2009, 04:44 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Perversely, I think actual cash would be more secu...   May 25 2009, 04:50 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   The biggest problem with 1) is that you have to ac...   May 25 2009, 05:51 AM
- - Heath Robinson   Assumption of laundering. When both ends of a tra...   May 25 2009, 06:11 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ May 24 2009, 11:1...   May 25 2009, 06:27 AM
|- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (kzt @ May 25 2009, 07:27 AM) True....   May 25 2009, 06:36 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Sure, but the only problem is that the only people...   May 25 2009, 06:24 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   I think we are all arguing the same thing then - m...   May 25 2009, 06:51 AM
|- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ May 25 2009, 07:51...   May 25 2009, 07:49 AM
- - kzt   And each mega is in a stronger position to demand ...   May 25 2009, 07:04 AM
- - Chrysalis   Reading through this thread all I could think of w...   May 25 2009, 07:26 AM
- - FrankTrollman   QUOTE (Chrysalis)Reading through this thread all I...   May 25 2009, 07:38 AM
|- - Chrysalis   QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ May 25 2009, 10:38...   May 25 2009, 09:51 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   Why wouldn't the megas MitM their segement? It...   May 25 2009, 08:23 AM
- - Heath Robinson   To begin with, you've got around 10% of the ne...   May 25 2009, 08:41 AM
|- - Cthulhudreams   QUOTE (Heath Robinson @ May 25 2009, 04:4...   May 25 2009, 09:45 AM
- - Chrysalis   I just realized there is a RL comparison: a prepay...   May 25 2009, 09:23 AM
|- - hyzmarca   QUOTE (Chrysalis @ May 25 2009, 04:23 AM)...   May 25 2009, 10:14 AM
- - hobgoblin   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearer_bond   May 25 2009, 09:35 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   In the future, the private institutions are the go...   May 25 2009, 09:52 AM
- - Heath Robinson   QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ May 25 2009, 10:45...   May 25 2009, 10:22 AM
|- - Cthulhudreams   <<DELETE>>   May 25 2009, 10:39 AM
- - Cthulhudreams   All these versions are different from the cred sti...   May 25 2009, 10:33 AM
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