 Defending against a mage., Without being one yourself. |
 Oct 15 2009, 03:26 AM
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So, the title is fairly self explanatory I hope.
I'm curious what sort of ways there are for an individual character to protect themselves from a mage besides being one themselves or having one on overwatch for them. And no, I don't mean 'geek the mage' either. I mean actual protection. I know that SR is a game of glass characters running around with hammers, but mages always seem to have the biggest hammer. Well, it isn't even that they have the biggest hammer, it is that there is nothing a character can really do (That I can think of) to protect themselves from magic without being born resistant or a mage. To stop a bullet/blade you can learn to dodge to be less likely to be hit/be hit less hard. You can throw on a bunch of armor to reduce the P damage to stun, and help you soak up more of the damage. So, my question is basically is there a magic equivalent to picking up the dodge skill (Besides counterspelling) or throwing on some armor? If not, what are some tips and tricks you've picked up to stop a mage blasting you into little bits. I believe there is some magic equivalent of the smoke grenade which blinds astral perception, but that is about the only one I can think of off hand. |
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Karoline Defending against a mage. Oct 15 2009, 03:26 AM
Glyph Willpower of 5 (6 if a dwarf), Edge of 5 (6 if a h... Oct 15 2009, 03:39 AM Orcus Blackweather Mages can only hit what they can see. Anything th... Oct 15 2009, 04:48 AM Marwynn Mages need Visibility to cast spells. Even with Cy... Oct 15 2009, 05:02 AM
Mordinvan QUOTE (Marwynn @ Oct 14 2009, 10:02 PM) T... Oct 15 2009, 05:21 AM Marwynn Six hours still from my copy of Street Magic. And ... Oct 15 2009, 05:55 AM Blade There's also the magic resistance positive qua... Oct 15 2009, 08:18 AM Thanee It's a design feature of SR, that only magic c... Oct 15 2009, 08:42 AM Medicineman A one-way-Mirror-Riot Shield (Being held a little ... Oct 15 2009, 09:03 AM Cheshyr QUOTE (Medicineman @ Oct 15 2009, 04:03 A... Oct 15 2009, 09:14 AM Straight Razor QUOTE (Cheshyr @ Oct 15 2009, 04:14 AM) I... Oct 16 2009, 01:38 PM toturi QUOTE (Medicineman @ Oct 15 2009, 05:03 P... Oct 15 2009, 01:06 PM Medicineman It should give you quite a bonus to Dodge (and if ... Oct 15 2009, 09:40 AM crizh How about a Doberman with uprated Armour, Gecko Ti... Oct 15 2009, 10:36 AM Cthulhudreams Well, you can take the 10 point disadvantage that ... Oct 15 2009, 11:01 AM W@geMage QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Oct 15 2009, 06:01... Oct 15 2009, 11:32 AM Cthulhudreams QUOTE (W@geMage @ Oct 15 2009, 10:32 PM) ... Oct 15 2009, 01:34 PM Karoline Thanks for the advice guys. Sounds like the only ... Oct 15 2009, 11:09 AM DuctShuiTengu Complete darkness + heavy thermal smoke renders ev... Oct 15 2009, 12:23 PM darthmord QUOTE (DuctShuiTengu @ Oct 15 2009, 08:23... Oct 16 2009, 07:02 PM Blade I don't know if the Nimu Salamander (salamande... Oct 15 2009, 01:01 PM Medicineman You mean the Aura of your Arm "shining throug... Oct 15 2009, 01:20 PM Kumo I prefer to think that aura shine only through WOR... Oct 15 2009, 02:17 PM Ravor Cthulhudreams your kidding right? For slightly les... Oct 15 2009, 04:53 PM Cthulhudreams QUOTE (Ravor @ Oct 16 2009, 03:53 AM) Cth... Oct 16 2009, 10:39 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Cthulhudreams @ Oct 16 2009, 04:39... Oct 17 2009, 02:43 AM Adarael Don't forget the ol' Ruthenium Polymer Sui... Oct 15 2009, 04:59 PM crizh QUOTE (Adarael @ Oct 15 2009, 05:59 PM) D... Oct 15 2009, 05:13 PM Adarael Well, that is certainly an opinion. But logic dict... Oct 15 2009, 05:23 PM crizh QUOTE (Adarael @ Oct 15 2009, 06:23 PM) W... Oct 15 2009, 05:34 PM BlueMax QUOTE (Adarael @ Oct 15 2009, 10:23 AM) W... Oct 15 2009, 05:34 PM Marwynn I believe it was ambiguous previously.
Perception... Oct 15 2009, 05:44 PM crizh QUOTE (Marwynn @ Oct 15 2009, 06:44 PM) I... Oct 15 2009, 05:59 PM Adarael Well, I'm gonna merrily go on applying percept... Oct 15 2009, 05:50 PM crizh QUOTE (Adarael @ Oct 15 2009, 06:50 PM) A... Oct 15 2009, 06:02 PM Mordinvan QUOTE (Adarael @ Oct 15 2009, 10:50 AM) W... Oct 16 2009, 05:45 AM Adarael QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Oct 15 2009, 09:45 PM)... Oct 16 2009, 07:05 AM Thanee Yep.
If you hold your gun into the exact same dir... Oct 15 2009, 05:54 PM Marwynn The rule book. SR4A, p.194, the section about Ward... Oct 15 2009, 06:01 PM crizh QUOTE (Marwynn @ Oct 15 2009, 07:01 PM) T... Oct 15 2009, 06:04 PM ScandRun Hmm this defending against mages seem kinda tough ... Oct 15 2009, 06:10 PM Kumo Well, if mage can't spot an enemy, he will not... Oct 15 2009, 06:14 PM cndblank QUOTE (Kumo @ Oct 15 2009, 01:14 PM) Well... Oct 15 2009, 10:35 PM Deathmaster35 QUOTE (cndblank @ Oct 15 2009, 05:35 PM) ... Oct 16 2009, 01:11 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Deathmaster35 @ Oct 15 2009, 06:11... Oct 16 2009, 02:49 AM Kumo QUOTE (cndblank @ Oct 16 2009, 12:35 AM) ... Oct 16 2009, 10:57 AM Apathy Options vs mages:
a large volume of individually w... Oct 15 2009, 06:27 PM BlueMax QUOTE (Apathy @ Oct 15 2009, 10:27 AM) Op... Oct 15 2009, 08:17 PM Jay QUOTE (BlueMax @ Oct 15 2009, 03:17 PM) I... Oct 15 2009, 09:35 PM Screaming Eagle QUOTE (Jay @ Oct 15 2009, 05:35 PM) They ... Oct 15 2009, 09:41 PM Apathy QUOTE (BlueMax @ Oct 15 2009, 03:17 PM) I... Oct 15 2009, 10:52 PM Stahlseele camo . . it's CAMO . . from Camouflage . . no... Oct 15 2009, 06:33 PM crizh QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Oct 15 2009, 07:33 PM... Oct 15 2009, 06:41 PM Jay This one stuck with me for a while (mostly because... Oct 16 2009, 02:21 PM Cheshyr Huh. I thought we were talking about the Chameleo... Oct 15 2009, 06:54 PM ravensoracle I think you deal with mages the same way you'd... Oct 15 2009, 08:26 PM Screaming Eagle Mages do have the biggest hammers, but they tend t... Oct 15 2009, 08:41 PM BlueMax QUOTE (Screaming Eagle @ Oct 15 2009, 01... Oct 15 2009, 09:01 PM crizh QUOTE (BlueMax @ Oct 15 2009, 10:01 PM) G... Oct 15 2009, 09:11 PM Mordinvan QUOTE (Screaming Eagle @ Oct 15 2009, 01... Oct 16 2009, 05:55 AM Marwynn Direct damage spells must achieve enough hits to b... Oct 15 2009, 11:28 PM Apathy QUOTE (Marwynn @ Oct 15 2009, 07:28 PM) D... Oct 16 2009, 12:13 AM Saint Sithney QUOTE (Apathy @ Oct 15 2009, 04:13 PM) An... Oct 16 2009, 12:10 PM Mordinvan QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Oct 16 2009, 05:10... Oct 16 2009, 02:00 PM Apathy RAW states that radar works against invisibility. ... Oct 16 2009, 03:12 PM Cheshyr QUOTE (Apathy @ Oct 16 2009, 11:12 AM) RA... Oct 16 2009, 08:42 PM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Oct 16 2009, 08:00 AM)... Oct 17 2009, 02:46 AM Mordinvan QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 16 2009, 07... Oct 17 2009, 07:22 AM Deathmaster35 QUOTE (Mordinvan @ Oct 17 2009, 03:22 AM)... Oct 17 2009, 12:48 PM Traul Fire from full cover.
A sammy can fire through a ... Oct 16 2009, 12:39 AM Mordinvan QUOTE (Traul @ Oct 15 2009, 05:39 PM) Fir... Oct 16 2009, 05:59 AM Adarael In a nutshell: if it blocks physical sight by putt... Oct 16 2009, 02:54 AM Ravor I disagree that the costs of a ward is that great,... Oct 16 2009, 03:33 AM Mordinvan QUOTE (Ravor @ Oct 15 2009, 08:33 PM) I d... Oct 16 2009, 06:10 AM cndblank I'll also point out that the idea of the mirro... Oct 16 2009, 04:15 AM toturi Does RAW state that shields provide cover? Oct 16 2009, 04:26 AM Marwynn He could probably be wearing a Chameleon Suit too,... Oct 16 2009, 05:53 AM Ravor I see them as being fairly common, albeit at low F... Oct 16 2009, 06:17 AM Marwynn Fairly common.
You can do it solo, or you can gro... Oct 16 2009, 06:28 AM toturi QUOTE (Marwynn @ Oct 16 2009, 02:28 PM) W... Oct 16 2009, 06:49 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (toturi @ Oct 16 2009, 12:49 AM) Wh... Oct 17 2009, 02:40 AM toturi QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 17 2009, 10... Oct 17 2009, 02:51 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (toturi @ Oct 16 2009, 08:51 PM) Ev... Oct 17 2009, 03:06 AM toturi QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 17 2009, 11... Oct 17 2009, 03:20 AM Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (toturi @ Oct 16 2009, 09:20 PM) Th... Oct 17 2009, 03:25 AM Mordinvan QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 16 2009, 08... Oct 17 2009, 07:26 AM Ravor I can only really disagree with the point about th... Oct 16 2009, 06:34 AM Marwynn QUOTE (Ravor @ Oct 16 2009, 02:34 AM) I c... Oct 16 2009, 12:59 PM toturi QUOTE (Marwynn @ Oct 16 2009, 08:59 PM) A... Oct 16 2009, 02:49 PM Blade I've checked Running Wild and Nimue Salamander... Oct 16 2009, 08:27 AM Stahlseele Feel free to use it in your games ^^ Oct 16 2009, 02:29 PM Ravor I disagree Cthulhudreams, all the mage has to do i... Oct 16 2009, 03:49 PM Pendaric Ahem with a small break from decorum...Check the s... Oct 16 2009, 04:35 PM Adarael I would apply only the better bonus for any given ... Oct 16 2009, 09:12 PM Stahlseele Well, with visibility mods, for the one looking al... Oct 16 2009, 09:32 PM Adarael I'm sorrry, Stahl, I don't know what you m... Oct 16 2009, 10:15 PM Ravor I think Stahlseele is talking about Vision Modes s... Oct 16 2009, 10:49 PM Stahlseele Yeah, that was it. sorry, wasn't clear enough ... Oct 16 2009, 11:01 PM Adarael Ahh, okay! Makes much more sense now. Oct 17 2009, 12:04 AM Marwynn I know it's not explicitly stated, though it i... Oct 17 2009, 03:16 AM  |
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