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So I'm working on an adventure that will take place in an underwater habitat and I was wondering if anyone has any information on whether or not a firearm will detonate the bullet under the saturation of Heliox or Triox? Heliox is a helium/oxygen mixture with the oxygen being considerably lower than at surface concentrations (I believe around 10% as opposed to 21%) and Triox is a Nitrogen/Helium/Oxygen mixture that is slightly better at preventing the hypothermia threat from Heliox but is more likely to cause nitrogen narcosis. Anyway I called around to some research facilities and most of them were very familiar with the problems that could be caused but none of them really had an idea if a firearm would work at such pressures. They also said that at those depths its entirely possible that the bullets themselves may fail completely before they were ever even fired. Anyone have any input on this?
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- Tsithlis   Saturation Diving Adventure   Mar 10 2010, 05:19 PM
- - Draco18s   If you can use a gas stove, then you can fire a gu...   Mar 10 2010, 05:36 PM
- - Dahrken   The basic operation of the weapon will work, as th...   Mar 10 2010, 05:42 PM
- - Tsithlis   Thanks, I'll make sure to add some of this to ...   Mar 10 2010, 05:43 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Tsithlis @ Mar 10 2010, 06:43 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 05:58 PM
- - Dahrken   What depth do you plan your habitat to be ? If it...   Mar 10 2010, 05:51 PM
- - Draco18s   I don't know why the CD player would have impl...   Mar 10 2010, 05:52 PM
- - Draco18s   Also ran into this which you might find interestin...   Mar 10 2010, 06:04 PM
- - Tsithlis   Saturation Diving is usually for depths of 600+ fe...   Mar 10 2010, 06:06 PM
- - Neowulf   Arsenal, pg 151- Extreme Environment Modification ...   Mar 10 2010, 06:11 PM
- - kzt   Caseless would be solid, I wouldn't expect any...   Mar 10 2010, 06:11 PM
- - Dahrken   500 meter depth ? This means about 50 bars pressur...   Mar 10 2010, 06:12 PM
- - Tsithlis   So basically they can shoot guns just be careful w...   Mar 10 2010, 06:16 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tsithlis @ Mar 10 2010, 01:16 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 07:04 PM
- - Tsithlis   what about stick n shocks, I am assuming since the...   Mar 10 2010, 07:12 PM
- - Sengir   Why are you so worried about the hull? I figure th...   Mar 10 2010, 07:28 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 10 2010, 02:28 PM) Wh...   Mar 10 2010, 07:31 PM
- - Tsithlis   That and the fact that there is no one there to re...   Mar 10 2010, 07:46 PM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (Tsithlis @ Mar 10 2010, 08:46 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 08:19 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Sengir @ Mar 10 2010, 03:19 PM) I ...   Mar 10 2010, 08:24 PM
- - Draco18s   I do suggest a quick read of The Sphere by Michael...   Mar 10 2010, 07:55 PM
- - Method   It really depends on if they will be using the fir...   Mar 10 2010, 08:00 PM
- - Tsithlis   Just finished watching, Abyss, The Sphere (Movie v...   Mar 10 2010, 08:03 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tsithlis @ Mar 10 2010, 03:03 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 08:08 PM
|- - Manunancy   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 10 2010, 09:08 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 08:32 PM
- - Method   What? No Deep Star Six?   Mar 10 2010, 08:06 PM
- - Tsithlis   hmm was unaware of that one... going to get it now   Mar 10 2010, 08:09 PM
- - Tsithlis   QUOTE Also: I've seen an ending segment of som...   Mar 10 2010, 08:10 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tsithlis @ Mar 10 2010, 03:10 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 08:15 PM
- - Tsithlis   If you do watch the abyss make sure to get the dir...   Mar 10 2010, 08:18 PM
- - Tsithlis   Yeah even if the bullet doesn't actually damag...   Mar 10 2010, 08:27 PM
- - Tsithlis   I think what I am going to do is limit Hull damage...   Mar 10 2010, 08:29 PM
- - Method   Plus you never know what kinds of ultra-light (aka...   Mar 10 2010, 08:31 PM
- - Tsithlis   the thing I am trying to do is break them out of t...   Mar 10 2010, 08:32 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Tsithlis @ Mar 10 2010, 03:32 PM) ...   Mar 11 2010, 04:59 AM
- - Sengir   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 10 2010, 09:24 PM) ...   Mar 10 2010, 08:34 PM
- - kzt   At 500 meters a hole in the hull will be like a la...   Mar 11 2010, 12:32 AM
|- - Sengir   QUOTE (kzt @ Mar 11 2010, 01:32 AM) At 50...   Mar 11 2010, 10:35 AM
- - Method   Is there a reason you want it to be a saturated di...   Mar 11 2010, 12:57 AM
|- - kzt   QUOTE (Method @ Mar 10 2010, 05:57 PM) Is...   Mar 11 2010, 05:12 AM
- - Red-ROM   don't you know? Shadowrunners can't swim...   Mar 11 2010, 02:01 AM
- - knasser   You know a really amusing scenario comes to mind. ...   Mar 11 2010, 01:35 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (knasser @ Mar 11 2010, 08:35 AM) Y...   Mar 11 2010, 04:37 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 11 2010, 04:37 PM) ...   Mar 11 2010, 04:42 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (knasser @ Mar 11 2010, 11:42 AM) Y...   Mar 11 2010, 05:23 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 11 2010, 05:23 PM) ...   Mar 11 2010, 06:38 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (knasser @ Mar 11 2010, 01:38 PM) W...   Mar 11 2010, 08:22 PM
- - Tsithlis   The facility is a research facility testing backgr...   Mar 11 2010, 04:45 PM
|- - knasser   QUOTE (Tsithlis @ Mar 11 2010, 04:45 PM) ...   Mar 11 2010, 04:48 PM
- - Method   Hmmm. I would be prepared to pay your runners a s...   Mar 11 2010, 09:05 PM


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