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post Jul 28 2010, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (Doc Chaos @ Jul 27 2010, 09:08 AM) *
Indeed. It would'nt of course have UV quality, but UV hosts are said to be so ultrarealistic that they might even be at low BTL level. So this wouldn't be needed for simple training exercises.

Low to high BTL though some apparently can simulate magic properly or decently...


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post Jul 28 2010, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Jul 28 2010, 12:14 AM) *
unless the description changed in SR4, it did more then that. Your programs, your matrix stats, all vanished, for all intents, you where in the real world.


A simulation with realistic parameters isn't entirely mystical.

There were a set of stat subs, and you could use your real skills, but you can still use half your hacking skill for any skill test. It's a simulation that's so good it has psychosomatic effects and it draws its parameters from the user's RL skills.
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post Jul 28 2010, 11:46 AM
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post Jul 28 2010, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Jul 28 2010, 07:14 AM) *
Your programs, your matrix stats, all vanished, for all intents, you where in the real world.

They don't vanish, they get integrated into the host's metaphor, which is precisely what a reality filter does. The difference is that this reality filter is so perfect that wielding your sword-shaped attack program feel just like the real thing. And of course the user's brain gets pumped full of hot sim signals cranked up to 11, which is why UV hosts can become quite unpleasant.


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post Jul 28 2010, 04:31 PM
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I don't think btl is anything like a uv node other than they both seem real. It is the deforence between playing a cg DVD movie on your computer and running at full speed the program that rendered it.
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post Jul 28 2010, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Jul 28 2010, 04:31 PM) *
I don't think btl is anything like a uv node other than they both seem real. It is the deforence between playing a cg DVD movie on your computer and running at full speed the program that rendered it.

But in both cases the output is the same, computer-generated images in the one case and high-power simsense signals in the other (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I think there even was a line somewhere that BTLs can be used to fuel an UV addiction and vice versa


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post Jul 28 2010, 07:45 PM
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Except that BTL isn't computer generated. It's made by playing back signals picked up from recording a real person.


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post Jul 28 2010, 07:46 PM
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Adiction yes, out put is in some ways the same but BTL is just a recording on a little chip. It is not a whole simulated reality. A sim sense seems real because it is recorded from an acurate model: reality. A Matrix style uv node doing all its simulated reality wizadry in real time is orders of magnitude more dificult.

Like I said it is the diforence between watching an HD recording of a speed run and playing the actual game with max settings.

That said, who else is adicted to BTGs? You know better than gaming videos on YouTube where you whatch someone else play a computer game and it is like YOU ARE REALLY THERE man.
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post Jul 28 2010, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE (Badmoodguy88 @ Jul 28 2010, 03:46 PM) *
That said, who else is adicted to BTGs? You know better than gaming videos on YouTube where you whatch someone else play a computer game and it is like YOU ARE REALLY THERE man.


You mean Let's Plays?


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post Jul 29 2010, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 28 2010, 07:45 PM) *
Except that BTL isn't computer generated. It's made by playing back signals picked up from recording a real person.

The Sixth World has many more electronic vices than just snuff recordings, there also are descriptions of chips which have an effect akin to conventional drugs (probably just a signal which stimulates certain brain regions on infinite loop) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


@Badmoon: No contest (and the comparison is not bad).


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post Jul 29 2010, 04:44 AM
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Thank you all for your input on helping me build the node. So I have three nexi put to together acting similar to a game. Where the mage has a similar options but a bit limited in that they do not have full access to the metaplanes and spirits.

So it is hardwired to the matrix and has a nexus running a physics engine one running a 3d model of the area of attack. the third runs my firewalls.


What are your thoughts on this.
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post Jul 29 2010, 02:18 PM
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Sounds reasonable, without a crapload of cash it's not going to be 100% realistic but a RL exercise doesn't do that, either.
But why do you connect the whole thing to the matrix if it's just a training ground for the team?


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post Jul 30 2010, 12:31 AM
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Otherwise the Iris Orb Update Wizard will be bugging them all the time.
"The Quick Orb Media Player has not been updated for over 3 hours. Please connect to the Matrix so that we can search for the latest Matrix Vulnerability security patches for Quick Orb Media Player."
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QUOTE (Saint Sithney @ Jul 29 2010, 06:31 PM) *
Otherwise the Iris Orb Update Wizard will be bugging them all the time.
"The Quick Orb Media Player has not been updated for over 3 hours. Please connect to the Matrix so that we can search for the latest Matrix Vulnerability security patches for Quick Orb Media Player."
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Heheh... Isn't that the truth... I always hate those update messages cropping up in my real-time simulation... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)


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