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May 9 2010, 01:31 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 7-January 07 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 10,558 |
Pixie ninja adept. With monofilament whip as a weapon focus, and stealth. Didn't bother buying off uneducated.
RAZORWIRE – NINJA ADEPT RACE: PIXIE (35 BP) ATTRIBUTES (260 BP) B2 A7 R7 (9) S1 C3 I6 L2 W7 M5 E6 Init/IP: 15/3 ACTIVE SKILLS (116 BP) Dodge (Ranged Combat): 4 (+2) Exotic Melee (Monofilament Whip): 6 Outdoors Skill Group: 1 Perception (Visual): 1 (+2) Stealth Skill Group: 4 Unarmed Combat (Shock Gloves): 4 (+2) QUALITIES (+30 BP) Adept: 5 Mild Allergy (Iron): +10 Sensitive System: +15 Spirit Bane (Beast Spirits): +10 ADEPT POWERS (5 POWER POINTS) Combat Sense 3 Enhanced Perception 2 Improved Infiltration 2 Improved Reflexes 2 GEAR & LIFESTYLE (35,000¥) (7+2 BP) Second Skin Line (w/Ruthenium Polymer Coating); Weapon Focus – Monofilament Whip (Force 2 w/Personalised Grip); Shock Glove; Middle Lifestyle (1 Month); 700¥ to spend. -------------------- Theoretical Shadowrunner
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May 9 2010, 01:40 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,803 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
I'm always amused of the concept of people weapons focusing a monfilament whip, not something I'd allow but I get that it's rules legal. Also no fake sin?
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If the GM doesn't understand the magic system it gets more powerful If the GM doesn't understand the matrix system it gets less powerful. "Ok guys it's been a couple weeks since we've played, the last thing I remember Foggy doing was Damien Knight" - As far as character highlights go it's not that bad. |
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May 9 2010, 01:49 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 7-January 07 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 10,558 |
Pixies aren't eligible for a SIN in the UCAS as far as I'm aware. Maybe one of my team mates could have an exotic pet license.
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May 9 2010, 02:19 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,299 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 |
Pixies aren't eligible for a SIN in the UCAS as far as I'm aware. Maybe one of my team mates could have an exotic pet license. That's right. You might consider a fake French SIN (or a criminal SIN from the Tir), but it's use would be highly limited. BTW, no Assensing or Astral Combat? It's not as necessary as for Dual Natured characters, but i'd consider at least the former if you are running around with an activated focus all the time. If only just to avoid bumping into wards with your monowhip and setting off an alarm. It's not possible to default and it seems odd that he has never bothered using his Astral Sight. You wouldn't have to free up many points for it, either. INT6 and Enhanced Perception would already give you 8 dice, so a skill of 1 should be enough to cover this. |
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May 9 2010, 02:27 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,345 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
That's right. You might consider a fake French SIN (or a criminal SIN from the Tir), but it's use would be highly limited. BTW, no Assensing or Astral Combat? It's not as necessary as for Dual Natured characters, but i'd consider at least the former if you are running around with an activated focus all the time. If only just to avoid bumping into wards with your monowhip and setting off an alarm. It's not possible to default and it seems odd that he has never bothered using his Astral Sight. You wouldn't have to free up many points for it, either. INT6 and Enhanced Perception would already give you 8 dice, so a skill of 1 should be enough to cover this. And why exactly would you be running around with your weapon focus activated all the time? I generally only activate it when it is necessary... Keep the Faith -------------------- Keep the Faith...
The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary. - James. D. Nicoll |
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May 9 2010, 02:48 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 29-April 10 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 18,523 |
Is Tomothy coming up with dumb (or at the least unlikely) pixie concepts kind of a running joke around here? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Can we keep all these confined to a single thread instead of having multiple pixie character threads for the same person?
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May 9 2010, 05:11 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,299 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 |
And why exactly would you be running around with your weapon focus activated all the time? I generally only activate it when it is necessary... Keep the Faith Situations where you have both wards you should not set off and the need for an activated weapon focus at the same time aren't that uncommon for shadowrunners. Better to relocate 4 points to Assensing than calling down a surveilance mage on your ass. BTW, i've been podering a concept like this as well after i got my copy of RC. Monowhips' only use lies in providing a melee weapon for characters who don't invest in STR, so from a number-crunchy viewpoint, it's a logical choice for a killerpixie. |
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May 9 2010, 05:13 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,831 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
In Arsenal, I seem to recall that Dwarfs take a penalty for using Reach 2 melee weapons. It stands to reason that pixies would have even greater issues using such weapons.
-------------------- Under controlled conditions, when a request is made via prayer for something unambiguous, nothing ever happens.
"WTF is the point of this game again? It sure doesn't look like it's 'having fun' with the way these fucking rules are written!" <<<My current view of the SR4/SR4A system.>>> Yes, I do blame much of the munchy crap my players do on whifs of shit Dumpshock has brought to their noses. |
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May 9 2010, 05:20 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,989 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I dunno if that would apply to Dwarves anyway; I feel like it's intended to be a penalty based on how heavy such a weapon is. But, good point.
SR has mostly avoided a D&D-style weapon size mechanic, because it's a PITA, but a pixie with an SMG raises its own problems, no? |
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May 9 2010, 05:24 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,831 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
There are no Dwarves in SR, only Dwarfs.
-------------------- Under controlled conditions, when a request is made via prayer for something unambiguous, nothing ever happens.
"WTF is the point of this game again? It sure doesn't look like it's 'having fun' with the way these fucking rules are written!" <<<My current view of the SR4/SR4A system.>>> Yes, I do blame much of the munchy crap my players do on whifs of shit Dumpshock has brought to their noses. |
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May 9 2010, 05:42 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,989 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
It's English, both are fine, and have been for 200 years.
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May 9 2010, 05:46 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,831 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
Does that mean that you have Orcs in your SR too? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
-------------------- Under controlled conditions, when a request is made via prayer for something unambiguous, nothing ever happens.
"WTF is the point of this game again? It sure doesn't look like it's 'having fun' with the way these fucking rules are written!" <<<My current view of the SR4/SR4A system.>>> Yes, I do blame much of the munchy crap my players do on whifs of shit Dumpshock has brought to their noses. |
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May 9 2010, 05:50 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 29-April 10 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 18,523 |
I'm with Yerameyahu. "Dwarves" is fine. So are "orc" and "orcs," for that matter.
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May 9 2010, 06:10 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,989 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Psh, HappyDaze, that's not really comparable. Also, your face! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 9 2010, 06:47 PM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,220 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
I'm always amused of the concept of people weapons focusing a monfilament whip, not something I'd allow but I get that it's rules legal. Also no fake sin? Why wouldn't you allow a monowhip focus? -------------------- Winter is my season; midnight, my hour; silence, my anthem.
Shoot-outs between Gandalf and the Terminator are fairly common on runs QUOTE (Sokora) A standard mission is 20 minutes of objectives, three days of planning, and 600 seconds of mayhem. I love this post. |
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May 9 2010, 07:31 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,345 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Why wouldn't you allow a monowhip focus? My guess would be because of it manufacture process... Extremely High Tech weapons do not do well with Enchanting (They are very difficult to enchant due to their technology level)... Keep the Faith -------------------- Keep the Faith...
The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary. - James. D. Nicoll |
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May 9 2010, 07:40 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,299 Joined: 6-February 08 From: Cologne, Germany Member No.: 15,648 |
My guess would be because of it manufacture process... Extremely High Tech weapons do not do well with Enchanting (They are very difficult to enchant due to their technology level)... Keep the Faith This is when you integrate orichalcum and exotic reagents into the focus formula to lower the TN again. It's not hard to enchant a monowhip or vibroblade weapon focus if you are willing to shell out some extra (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) . And of course, it's technological properties won't help you in astral space. Your monowhip has the stats of a normal whip weapon focus there, your chainsaw is a club or something like that and your vibronodachi is just a normal nodachi. |
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May 9 2010, 07:42 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,345 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
This is when you integrate orichalcum and exotic reagents into the focus formula to lower the TN again. It's not hard to enchant a monowhip or vibroblade weapon focus if you are willing to shell out some extra (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) . And of course, it's technological properties won't help you in astral space. Your monowhip has the stats of a normal whip weapon focus there, your chainsaw is a club or something like that and your vibronodachi is just a normal nodachi. Perhaps, except that that they Completely ignore ITNW (on the physical anyways), and bypass regeneration for those creatures that have it, while the mundane ones do not... But yeah, you can solve most problems with a judicious application of excessive funds... Keep the faith -------------------- Keep the Faith...
The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary. - James. D. Nicoll |
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May 9 2010, 10:18 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,831 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
QUOTE Why wouldn't you allow a monowhip focus? I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it as with a weapon focus taser... but so long as the lines still connect the darts to the firing module in your hand, I guess that's legal too. -------------------- Under controlled conditions, when a request is made via prayer for something unambiguous, nothing ever happens.
"WTF is the point of this game again? It sure doesn't look like it's 'having fun' with the way these fucking rules are written!" <<<My current view of the SR4/SR4A system.>>> Yes, I do blame much of the munchy crap my players do on whifs of shit Dumpshock has brought to their noses. |
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May 9 2010, 10:25 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,989 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
I can't tell if you're kidding. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 9 2010, 10:44 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,831 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
Of course I absolutely perhaps might be kidding and/or serious.
-------------------- Under controlled conditions, when a request is made via prayer for something unambiguous, nothing ever happens.
"WTF is the point of this game again? It sure doesn't look like it's 'having fun' with the way these fucking rules are written!" <<<My current view of the SR4/SR4A system.>>> Yes, I do blame much of the munchy crap my players do on whifs of shit Dumpshock has brought to their noses. |
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May 9 2010, 10:54 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,831 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
Don't forget the joy of a disposable weapon focus in the form of a wire-guided missle! Just have to have the wire stay connected and you can... still miss terribly because of the scatter. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
-------------------- Under controlled conditions, when a request is made via prayer for something unambiguous, nothing ever happens.
"WTF is the point of this game again? It sure doesn't look like it's 'having fun' with the way these fucking rules are written!" <<<My current view of the SR4/SR4A system.>>> Yes, I do blame much of the munchy crap my players do on whifs of shit Dumpshock has brought to their noses. |
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May 9 2010, 10:58 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: 10-February 09 Member No.: 16,863 |
I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it as with a weapon focus taser... but so long as the lines still connect the darts to the firing module in your hand, I guess that's legal too. In case you're not... Tasers are technically ranged weapons aren't they? And even if not, most of their damage still comes from the electric battery, which you can't make magical or turn into a focus. -------------------- Living a lie is one thing, but lying to live, now that's just good business.
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May 10 2010, 01:33 AM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,831 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
In case you're not... Tasers are technically ranged weapons aren't they? And even if not, most of their damage still comes from the electric battery, which you can't make magical or turn into a focus. Oh, you can certainly enchant the taser - battery and all - it's just harder than if you were to enchant a hand-made wood and stone warclub. Regardless of the fact that the the taser is a ranged weapon, there is still a direct connection between the weapon and the weilder - which is what the weapon focus requires. I'd say the lead wires are likely more substantially connected back to the wielder than the business end of a monowhip would be. BTW, I've seen a commlink that was enchanted to be a sustaining focus too. -------------------- Under controlled conditions, when a request is made via prayer for something unambiguous, nothing ever happens.
"WTF is the point of this game again? It sure doesn't look like it's 'having fun' with the way these fucking rules are written!" <<<My current view of the SR4/SR4A system.>>> Yes, I do blame much of the munchy crap my players do on whifs of shit Dumpshock has brought to their noses. |
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May 10 2010, 02:05 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,989 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
An enchanted weapon focus taser would be a very expensive, very small magic club (in terms of being a magic weapon). It'd still work as a mundane taser, but I'd never allow the combination implied above. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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