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post Jan 3 2012, 05:28 AM
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post Jan 3 2012, 06:29 AM
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Ol Fastjack coming in to back up a death threat on one of the Jackpointers was interesting.

I can actually see him carrying it off too.


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post Jan 3 2012, 06:30 AM
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QUOTE (Pepsi Jedi @ Jan 3 2012, 02:29 AM) *
Ol Fastjack coming in to back up a death threat on one of the Jackpointers was interesting.

I can actually see him carrying it off too.
IRL or on the Matrix, if you can see FastJack, you are already dead...

Seeing as he's a father himself, he's not likely to take threats to kids lightly.
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post Jan 3 2012, 06:36 AM
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QUOTE (Pepsi Jedi @ Jan 3 2012, 12:29 AM) *
Ol Fastjack coming in to back up a death threat on one of the Jackpointers was interesting.

I can actually see him carrying it off too.


Egads. Who did he threaten? (My guess is the ever-hated CLockwork, but.)
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post Jan 3 2012, 06:45 AM
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QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Jan 3 2012, 01:36 AM) *
Egads. Who did he threaten? (My guess is the ever-hated CLockwork, but.)


Indeed,
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Now.... when people on Jackpoint threaten each other, you usually take it as bluster or with a grain of salt.

When Fastjack does it.. you kinda STFU and back up. lol you know?


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post Jan 3 2012, 07:45 AM
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When FastJack does it, you're already on borrowed time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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post Jan 3 2012, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE (G-14 @ Jan 3 2012, 04:52 AM) *
Regard. Slamm-0!'s artwork: Wasn't he already depicted as of SR 20th Anniv.'s Matrix Intro-fic? There is quite the jump from the lean, angular gent we see in 20A, and the overweight techno-hippie we see in the Street Legends Suppl.
Is it supposed to be Clockwork's graphic depiction to further kick him in the ego-sack, or has fatherhood really done a number on the poor sap?


Most likely the artist didn't know about it and anyone pointed him towards it.


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post Jan 3 2012, 11:36 AM
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I just bought it. It looks like it's the characters I wanted in Street Legends plus a few I didn't know I wanted. I'll look at it in the morning.
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post Jan 3 2012, 11:40 AM
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I'd like to note I'm even more sick of /dev/grrl now. Apparently, she is capable of doing research herself. That makes her previous "lol what's Bug City" questions all the more loathsome.
Oh, and people who have billions of bounties on their heads do not hang out in unsecured places without guards, so it's unbelievable, too.
UPD: but less unbelievable than that bit on DNA, admittedly.


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post Jan 3 2012, 11:42 AM
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Maybe we can bribe James Meiers to kill her off-screen too.


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post Jan 3 2012, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (Bull @ Jan 3 2012, 01:52 AM) *
Heya! gad you liked it, snow! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I wrote up Kane, so I'm glad you enjoyed it. He was a lot of fun to play with, as was the character writing up the bio. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Street Rage is a new character created by one of the freelancers for this book. Don't recall off-hand who wrote him.

Lets I get called out for it, Bull posts a LOT in this book. However, I'm only responsible for Kane's write up, and Bull only posts a single line in it. Sort of. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The rest was all other people.

Harlequin was written up by Devon Oratz.

Buttercup is a bit unique, even for a Free Spirit. I don't think that spirits can normally get the conjuring skills, so she's exceptional in that regard.

Slamm-0! was Brandie Tarvin, and I think that one was great too, especially coming from Clockwork. I LOVE the art myself. Slamm-0! is the quintessential nerd/geek and looks the part. I'm also glad he was able to get some measure of revenge on Bull for the original Street Legends. I'm just glad I don't have to experience a "Diaper Bomb" in RL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

There's was a fair bit of discussion regarding Bandit and his essence backstage. the short form is that Bandit doesn't like having augmentations. It used to be pretty much necessary to have a bunch of headware during the gold old decking days, if you wanted to be competitive. These days, it's much less necessary. So while the write up doesn't go into it, effectively he had that stuff ripped out once he didn't need it.


Yeah, I figured that was the explanation for Bandit, but it would've been nice to have an 'official' comment on it in the stat block (or write-up).

It's the moustache and red hair I have the biggest problems with on Slamm-O! Dunno why...it makes him look kinda like Obelix, and kind-of like a norwegian comedian, and I've always pictured him as blonde; even before the SR4A art. I like the pudginess, though - that fits, I think. He's getting older, and he's a nerd and hacker, and now a father.

That explains why I've never heard of Street Rage before - great stuff though!

If Devon Oratz is also responsible for the whole plot-thread there with Harlequin, I hope we'll get to see that developed by the same author (but preferrably without the same voice for Frosty...it went a bit far, I think - unless...hmm, maybe she's found out the truth? That could explain it...)

Well done with Kane, Bull - I've re-read it and I really, really like the whole thing. I guess it can be argued that Kane is 'too easy' to get to as decribed considering the bounty...but I do think it fits the character somehow.

All in all, this book fulfills everything I was hoping for with Street Legends. To everyone involved: well done! This is probably my favorite SR publication of the year, so far! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

(jokes aside - it's about the best I've seen in a year or two. If things keep on a similar track, I for one will be a happy gm!)


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post Jan 3 2012, 01:03 PM
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Who's that Devon Oratz? Did he work on previous SR4 books?


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post Jan 3 2012, 01:09 PM
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Devon Oratz has written in Street Legends, Corporate Intrigue and Artifacts Unbound (possibly more? dunno...) That's the extent of my knowledge.

Oh, and I'm curious now - what did Devon write in Corp Intrigue and Artifacts?


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post Jan 3 2012, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE (snowRaven @ Jan 3 2012, 01:58 PM) *
It's the moustache and red hair I have the biggest problems with on Slamm-O! Dunno why...it makes him look kinda like Obelix, and kind-of like a norwegian comedian, and I've always pictured him as blonde; even before the SR4A art. I like the pudginess, though - that fits, I think. He's getting older, and he's a nerd and hacker, and now a father.

What a oddly interesting pair of comparisons.


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post Jan 3 2012, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (Fatum @ Jan 3 2012, 07:40 AM) *
I'd like to note I'm even more sick of /dev/grrl now. Apparently, she is capable of doing research herself. That makes her previous "lol what's Bug City" questions all the more loathsome.
Oh, and people who have billions of bounties on their heads do not hang out in unsecured places without guards, so it's unbelievable, too.
UPD: but less unbelievable than that bit on DNA, admittedly.
Who said he didn't have guards? Either that, or he just sold them out.

Anyhow, at least she finally grew a pair.
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post Jan 3 2012, 03:21 PM
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Uh, the whole story implies he wasn't guarded? You know, the whole walking-up-to-him-with-Ares-Alpha kind of deal?


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post Jan 3 2012, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (Bull @ Jan 2 2012, 07:52 PM) *
Heya! gad you liked it, snow! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I wrote up Kane, so I'm glad you enjoyed it. He was a lot of fun to play with, as was the character writing up the bio. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


The write-up for Kane was awesome. All measures of awesome.

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Harlequin was written up by Devon Oratz.


I liked it, but the only thing that annoyed me was that the metamagic he taught Frosty wasn't placed in the write-up. I was hoping to see two or so new metamagics there. I've a character in my game currently going through a 'path' of sorts inspired by the tarot deck, which if he completes will require Harlequin mentoring him as a 'knight'.

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Buttercup is a bit unique, even for a Free Spirit. I don't think that spirits can normally get the conjuring skills, so she's exceptional in that regard.


She's... interesting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Oh. I hate to do this, but I feel I must (not related to you, Bull).

Piqued interest. Not peaked. I've seen it enough times that it really really annoys me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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post Jan 3 2012, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (Fatum @ Jan 3 2012, 11:21 AM) *
Uh, the whole story implies he wasn't guarded? You know, the whole walking-up-to-him-with-Ares-Alpha kind of deal?
Never underestimate the cute little girl with the schoolgirl outfit.

Hell, the Ares Alpha was probably just more of a turn-on for him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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QUOTE (Tashiro @ Jan 3 2012, 09:28 AM) *
Oh. I hate to do this, but I feel I must (not related to you, Bull).

Piqued interest. Not peaked. I've seen it enough times that it really really annoys me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

How did I miss that...?

That said, there were a couple of things I missed proofing Harlequin, and getting that metamagic inserted was one of them. Sorry about that.


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I'm really, really interested in seeing what's coming down the pipe, just from the hints in this book.
And /dev/ is now one of my favourite characters. Mind you, I liked her earlier, now she's just coated in awesome.


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QUOTE (Tashiro @ Jan 3 2012, 09:47 AM) *
I'm really, really interested in seeing what's coming down the pipe, just from the hints in this book.
And /dev/ is now one of my favourite characters. Mind you, I liked her earlier, now she's just coated in awesome.

Yeah, I was telling Bull during the development of this product that there probably were not going to be any neutral reactions to the piece on Kane. I thought it was old-school, second- and third-edition SR, candy-coated awesome, myself. I've read it a lot of times by now, from its earliest drafts to the final proof, and it just never got old for me. I knew there would be a lot of people like Fatum, for instance, who hated it...and that's cool, too. Kane and most people associated with him are pretty polarizing, I've found.

I'm really interested in how this all winds up shaking out.


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I don't hate Kane as a character; I hate the believability of the setting ruined.


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post Jan 3 2012, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Fatum @ Jan 3 2012, 11:02 AM) *
I don't hate Kane as a character; I hate the believability of the setting ruined.


Yes, because nobody in real life ever makes a bone-headed mistake which can suddenly end their careers. Oh wait. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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QUOTE (Patrick Goodman @ Jan 3 2012, 10:46 AM) *
How did I miss that...?

That said, there were a couple of things I missed proofing Harlequin, and getting that metamagic inserted was one of them. Sorry about that.


It's okay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Perhaps it can just be added to a future supplement - gathering metamagics and spells together from various sources and adding them to some new ones. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Null sheen, as they say.


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QUOTE (Fatum @ Jan 3 2012, 12:02 PM) *
I don't hate Kane as a character; I hate the believability of the setting ruined.
There's such a thing as believing your own Rep too much.

Also, he might have thought himself "Safe" due to arrangements with the CAS he just made (They talk about that in the file, BTW.). He just didn't expect the Spanish Inquis... Er... A NEONet Schoolgirl.
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