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Oct 7 2005, 05:06 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
The arc had always been a money sink. But better to lose money than to lose face. |
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Oct 7 2005, 05:10 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,453 |
Defeat? What defeat? They kicked Deus' butt and run him out of the Arcology! Flawless victory! And you wouldn't want to argue that with Renraku PR, would you? Okay, so now there is a huge building where slaughter on a massive scale happened and where no one wants to live any more for the same reason no one wants to live on the site of former concentration camps. But don't worry - Renraku security has full control of the building again. They even reopened the mall, see? And they have rented out some other parts to various... organizations. Those rumors about squatters coming in from the Ork Underground and making their home in abandoned parts of the building are just silly. After all, Renraku has said that the whole Arc is under their control again, and Renraku Is Your Friend, and you want to trust your Friend on this, now don't you? Oh, and you are only allowed higher than floor 31 if you have the proper security clearance, so bug off. Yes, we walled that section off. Some structural damage was inflicted during the fight to retake the Arc, but don't worry - it's perfectly safe here. Our repair crews are working on it, and it should be reopened on... oh, October 3rd or so. Two weeks after that at the latest. That's how I imagine the Arc to be: Renraku claims that they have the whole building under their control, and Joe Citizen probably believes it thanks to corporate propaganda, but in reality it woud cost Renraku huge amounts of money to keep an eye on every part of the building all the time (the buiding is frigging huge after all), and so they just don't bother with many areas. And the shadow community knows it. |
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Oct 7 2005, 05:15 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
The point is not about Joe Citizen - its about Business.
If the shadow community knows, many other corps will know... and weakness isn't something you want to demonstrate when you are not that well indeed. Cross' example should have demonstrated that well enough. ;) |
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Oct 7 2005, 05:18 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 26-July 03 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 5,029 |
Given Deus' complete and total penetration of the arcology's computer network, they're going to have to sterilize the entire system which will take months, if not years.
Renraku's going to slip further and further down the megacorp totem pole while they deal with this... |
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Oct 7 2005, 05:21 PM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Didn't the City of Seattle take over responsibility for the Arcology at some point?
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Oct 7 2005, 05:30 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
That was handed back to Renraku in SotA64, IIRC.
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Oct 7 2005, 05:43 PM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Ah, ok. I knew that Seattle had it for a while, but wasn't sure whether they gave it back or not.
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Oct 7 2005, 06:10 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,453 |
How many years has it been since they "reconquered" the Arc? Eight? By now, they have probably extracted everything they could learn from the remains. And sooner or later, they find themselves with an absolutely huge building and no real way of extracting a profit from it. They have already lost all the face they could loose when they lost it the first time, and all the other megacons already know about it. Frankly, the Board of Directors probably want to forget about this whole mess and bury it next to Huang - after all, everything was his fault. Sure, the other megacons have sent their own runners into the Arc - and it is hard to stop them, given the situation - but after some time they won't bother once they find nothing new, either. Sooner or later, the corporate world will forget about it, too - with the exception of those who lost relatives. Perhaps some day the events of Christmas 2059 and its aftermath will be forgotten by most, and Renraku will unveil some sort of grand project to rejuvenate the site and make it a money-maker again. But for now, it will get lousy security and a low priority by Renraku. For the moment, they have cut their losses. And they are certainly not going to maintain ultra-high security for eight years on some site that's only loosing them money. |
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Oct 7 2005, 06:40 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
If that would be the case, no need to even reclaim it - that may work for Americorps, but not for Japanocorps.
Even if they want - they can't... |
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Oct 7 2005, 06:47 PM
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Mr. Johnson ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Or if you are a contestant on the show Survivor: Renraku Arcology (Sprawl Survival Guide, p 25). Sprawl Survival Guide has some interesting canon bits about the SCIRE on p78:
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Oct 7 2005, 07:45 PM
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King of the Hobos ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
I think you're overstating this a bit. The books say that whilst Renraku North America was badly hit by this Renraku the central holding company and the other divisions like Renraku Europe, Asia, Africa etc. weren't that badly affected. Add in Shikei Nakatomi's third of Fuchi and whilst the whole affair has kicked them down, they're certainly not out. |
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Oct 7 2005, 09:16 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
No, the UCAS Army handed over most of to the Metroplex Guard. The decision whether to sell it back to Renraku was still up in the air. |
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Oct 8 2005, 03:46 AM
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
So I wasn't just imagining things then (at least this time! ;)). :) |
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Oct 8 2005, 05:11 AM
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
IIRC, Huang spun a lot of the situation so that he came out looking like a hero, and nearly got the CEO's seat. I think most of the heat fell on the now deceases Aneki, since the project was his baby to begin with. Completely off topic, I want to know what's going on with 'Anne Pencyk' |
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Oct 8 2005, 05:18 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
No idea, but Huang's in prison for super-duper embezzlement.
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Oct 8 2005, 05:34 AM
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Uncle Fisty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
HAHAHAHHAHAA
That's frickin' karma right there! |
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Oct 8 2005, 05:35 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,453 |
And that makes him a very convenient scapegoat. |
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Oct 8 2005, 05:38 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Quite.
The fact that he didn't just embezzle for the hell of it, but that he did it with purpose makes it so much funnier. Personally, I'd use the fucker for target practice if I was a Director. But that's me. I'm a dick like that. |
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