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> How To Make Spike In SR, No, *not* the Buffy one
Leviathan
post Oct 23 2005, 01:58 PM
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Hey, I've been watching Cowboy Beebop recently, and I was wondering how we would go about duplicating the character Spike in SR?
I dont think cyberware would be appropriate, so Adept is probably our best bet.
To start with there would have to be:

Massive Kung-Fu skill

Rather large Gambling skill

Something to reflect how fast his eyes perceive things (for those who havn't seen it, think being able to tell exactly what symbol is going past at any given time on a slot machine)

A phenominal dodging ability

What else?


Anyone have any ideas?
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post Oct 23 2005, 02:14 PM
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everybody always chooses adepts when they make a "character X in SR" thread. Spike would, at the very least, have a cybereye in SR. given that he was a triad hitman, i suppose it's possible that he was an adept (what with the triad's magic-heavy leanings), but it's equally possible that the Red Dragon cybered him up. or he could be a cybered adept--that, i think, would fit his character best; the loss of magic is something of a fall from grace, which is definitely a part of who Spike is.
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post Oct 23 2005, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE (mfb)
everybody always chooses adepts when they make a "character X in SR" thread. Spike would, at the very least, have a cybereye in SR. given that he was a triad hitman, i suppose it's possible that he was an adept (what with the triad's magic-heavy leanings), but it's equally possible that the Red Dragon cybered him up. or he could be a cybered adept--that, i think, would fit his character best; the loss of magic is something of a fall from grace, which is definitely a part of who Spike is.

Hmm.. I guess I havn't watched enough of the series yet to figure things out properly..
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post Oct 23 2005, 02:50 PM
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ack. well, i won't say any more. don't want to ruin it for you. it's a great series, especially if you watch it in order.
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post Oct 23 2005, 05:01 PM
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Yeah, it is rather good :)

So, did you have any other ideas, stat/SR-rules wise about how to put him in Shadowrun?
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post Oct 23 2005, 06:21 PM
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I don't believe that Spike's fake eye is cyber. He appears to have poor depth perception in one of his fights with Vicious. We see he aiming as Vicious from a first person view but his vision becomes blurry as Vicious charges and he misses. Of course, the blurry vision could be related to wound modifiers, but I doubt it. In the same scene it appears that blood was flowing into his fake eye from a head wound but that didn't bother him at all. Had the eye been cyber the blood would have further obstructed his vision and he would have, at least, blinked to clear it.
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post Oct 23 2005, 06:25 PM
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There's a flashback scene in Sympathy for the Devil. His artificial eye is definitely cybernetic. I doubt any more of him is.
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post Oct 23 2005, 10:33 PM
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Gee, and I thought someone wanted to make Spike, the head Gremlin from the movie "Gremlins". :)
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post Oct 23 2005, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE (hahnsoo)
Gee, and I thought someone wanted to make Spike, the head Gremlin from the movie "Gremlins". :)

You are old......that is all. :P
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post Oct 23 2005, 11:09 PM
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MR J: I just need you to deliver this awakened pet to a buyer in Hong Kong. It is a rare creature and traficking in such animals is illegal, so I have to avoid the standard courier services. There are three rules that you must observe while transporting the animal. Never get it wet. Never feed it after midnight. And never expose it to sunlight. Sunlight is fatal to it. If you fail to observe these rules you will forfeit the second half of your payment.

Runner: So is that midnight in the time zone we're currently in, midnight here, midnight in Hong Kong, midnight GMT, or what? And what about Daylight Savings Time? And when you say "after" what exactly do you mean? When is it "before midnight"? Dawn? Noon? When? Can we only feed it exactly at midnight on the very second? If so how is it supposed to eat that fast?

Mr J: I don't know.
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post Oct 24 2005, 12:01 AM
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Regarding the bounty hunter and not the crafty little monster:

Adept powers:

Improved initiative
Sidestep!
Improved pistols or kung-fu if you can afford it

Cyber:

A cybereye -- ungaesed
possibly a smartgun link -- as I recall he does an awful lot of trick shooting for which the link would be very useful

Edges/flaws:

Will to live
Hunted
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post Oct 24 2005, 12:01 AM
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That's hilarious, hyzmarca.
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post Oct 24 2005, 12:50 AM
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Impulsive would be another possible flaw for him.

I'd say computer illiterate would be good since he always just kicks any piece of electronics that isn't working right, but he still uses alot of it, so that probably wouldn't work.

For edges, Daredevil might be a good idea.
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post Oct 24 2005, 01:34 AM
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Gremlins, maybe then.
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post Oct 24 2005, 02:29 AM
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While Spike would be cool, I think Ein has more potential for getting integrated into a SR storyline. The only real hurdle is deciding exactly what a "data dog" is, since anime and the different manga versions don't ever really specify.
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post Oct 24 2005, 02:30 AM
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i'm not sure if impulsive is the right flaw. maybe some sort of compulsion flaw, where if he hears word about Julia (or Vicious), he immediately drops whatever he's doing to hunt the rumor down. other than that, he's really too lazy to be impulsive.

whether the eye is cyber in the series or not, i think it probably would fit his character better if it were cyber in SR. and since i am the undisputed guru of all things CB, you must all bow to my wisdom.
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post Oct 24 2005, 02:42 AM
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Spike.
make him small, mouthy, near sighted flaw. extra skill in film making. courtside tickets for NY Nicks Basket ball game. BIG EGO.

well you said not the Buffy one.
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post Oct 24 2005, 04:25 AM
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hahaha.
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post Oct 24 2005, 06:47 AM
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Spike has no magic. At all. And we know that he has relatively little chrome. That doesn't mean that he's an adept, it means that he's mostly filled with Bioware.

So he has got:

Cybereyes - Rating 2 (.3)
Vision Enhancement 3 [3]
Smartlink [3]
Vision Mag [2]
Plastic Bone Lacing (.5)

Synthacardium 2 (.2)
Suprathyroid Gland (.7)
Enhanced Articulation (.3)
Digestive Expansion (.5)
Muscle Aug 2 (.4)
Muscle Toner 2 (.4)
Platelet Factory (.2)
Damage Compensator 6 (.6)
Reflex Recorder: Unarmed Combar (.1)
Symbiotes 3 (.6)
Synaptic Booster 3 (1.5)

So Spike has an Essence of 0.1, but the only outward sign he shows for it (aside from the thing where he gets 4 initiative passes and rolls 26 dice when on full defense in melee combat), is that he eats like a horse that eats crazy insane people food.

-Frank
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post Oct 24 2005, 11:13 AM
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Spike doesn't really eat that much, all things considered. He usually have bell pepers and beef, without the beef. It isn't that he likes it, he hates the stuff. It is just that it is usually the only thing that he and Jet and afford after using their bounty money to pay for damages.

I would say that he is an adept from the way he fights and the way he moves.

Gren is the bioware guy.
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post Oct 24 2005, 01:06 PM
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Spike has to be superhumanly fast IMHO. Asimov was so fast he dodged already airborn bullets when he was on bloody eye, and Spike walloped him quite soundly. ABC logic.
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post Oct 24 2005, 04:14 PM
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Yeah. And Ed may be a technomancer :)
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post Oct 24 2005, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (maa01)
Yeah. And Ed may be a technomancer :)

You misspelled "in the SR setting, would pretty much have to" up there. Hope this helps. Have a nice day.
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post Oct 24 2005, 05:25 PM
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Nah. Ed is an Otaku who can run Hot ASSIST through a trode rig.

As for Ein, he's more intelligent than any other member of the crew.
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post Oct 24 2005, 05:46 PM
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Nah. Ed is an Otaku who can run Hot ASSIST through a trode rig.

As for Ein, he's more intelligent than any other member of the crew.

Which episode was it where Ein cracks through some computer security like it was warm butter and Ein was a chainsaw. That part really cracked me up because only Ed noticed it and all she had was a puzzled look. The significance of it was lost on the group, they just said thanks to Ed for cracking it.
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