 What's your Favorite SMG?, Voice your opinion. |
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 Oct 25 2005, 01:38 PM
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Creating a god with his own hands  Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364  |
Just wanted to know what people liked.
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Oct 25 2005, 01:40 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
MP5x - classic & old-school. And looks cool. :)
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Oct 25 2005, 01:55 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
What he said...
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Oct 25 2005, 02:00 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
In SR, or IRL?
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Oct 25 2005, 02:06 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 |
I like the Thompson, personally... It's like a classic car. Of course, that's also about how much it weighs (even though it feels just about indestructible, and the extra weight made it pretty controllable in my experience) so in a real-life combat situation, I'd probably go with something more modern, like an MP5. (if we limit this to guns I've actually fired)
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Oct 25 2005, 02:06 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,070 Joined: 7-February 04 From: NYC Member No.: 6,058 |
Classic and old-school? God, kids these days... :) |
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Oct 25 2005, 02:10 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
In SR - my IRL-knowlegde of weeapons goes towards 0. ;) This post has been edited by Grinder: Oct 25 2005, 02:11 PM |
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Oct 25 2005, 02:11 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
In 2060/70, i'm an old sucker. 8) |
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Oct 25 2005, 02:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 944 Joined: 19-February 03 Member No.: 4,128 |
I would take the P90 in a heartbeat if I thought I would be facing opponents in body armor, Else, UMP.
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Oct 25 2005, 02:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 278 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Rehovot, Israel Member No.: 265 |
IRL? Calico SMG damn cool and innovative.
In SR? Ingram Smartgun - good-looking, somewhat compact, well-accessorized (in SR4 it even has a Sound Supressor - can it be combined with a Gas Vent as they did in SR4?). |
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Oct 25 2005, 02:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 27-August 02 From: Scotland Member No.: 3,175 |
Chalk me up for the Ingram Smartgun too.
Looks good, does decent damage - what's not to like! |
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Oct 25 2005, 03:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 523 Joined: 13-March 05 Member No.: 7,155 |
Ingram Smartgun is definitely the best SR SMG.
Real life I clicked on the P90 because it looks so dang sweet, but you gotta love the MP 5...it saved John Mclaine's life. |
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Oct 25 2005, 03:08 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
anything that gets the job done...
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Oct 25 2005, 03:27 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
See my sig! :)
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Oct 25 2005, 03:34 PM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
IIRC, the Ingram Smartgun IS the Mac10, just with more gadgets. Personally, I would go with a tricked-out B&T MP9, foregrip taclight, red dot (Or smartlink 2, depending on RL or SR) and a suppressor. ooh, and a brass collector. In 10MM Auto. either that or the P90 if I'm facing peeps with body armor. SR, RL, what's the difference? |
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Oct 25 2005, 03:41 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I'm guessing this is RL guns (in which case, that label would've been convenient on the poll :P )
I voted Thompson, for reasons stated above. Of all the guns listed, the Thompson looks best when fired by someone wearing a trenchcoat and fedora. In regards to the SR guns, I generally go with a standard H&K. The SA/BF/FA with 7M damage is useful (and neither can be reliably changed with mods) so that's what I look for first, then I trick it out with the GVIV, integral smartlink, custom handle, so on and so forth. |
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Oct 25 2005, 03:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 523 Joined: 13-March 05 Member No.: 7,155 |
I had always figured on the Ingram Warrior-10 being more like the MAC-10. I think in the case of the MAC-10, the gear makes the gun. You add stuff to the MAC-10 to jazz it up and it's no longer a MAC-10, the cheap-ass piece of crap we know and love. |
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Oct 25 2005, 03:45 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Thompson.
I want to grow up to be a thompson gunner. |
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Oct 25 2005, 03:55 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Should we start calling you Roland? |
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Oct 25 2005, 04:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 149 Joined: 21-March 05 From: UCAS (if its tuesday) Member No.: 7,200 |
I gotta go with the UMP, burst to the face kinda negates armor, and I've heard that the open bolt of th p-90 causes problems, like if you bump it to hard and a round falls out of the clip, the rest will follow. and there is a reason that the mac-10 is refered to as a "pray and spray", yeah I'll go for power and accruacy, of course an uzi will suffice in a pinch
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Oct 25 2005, 04:29 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Well, I want to be the best.
I'll cut right to chase. Don't take this the wrong way, but almost none of what you said has anything to do with reality. |
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Oct 25 2005, 04:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 523 Joined: 13-March 05 Member No.: 7,155 |
Why don't you correct him and enlighten us all instead of insulting him and begging forgiveness? I for one would like to know if the P90 problem he talks about is true. |
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Oct 25 2005, 04:55 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
I was doing neither, but if you insist.
I have no idea what the hell a burst to the face has to do with either a UMP or real life. The P90 fires from a closed bolt and has no such problems, and regardless, no open bolt weapon would ever suffer from such a silly flaw. Rounds do not simply fall out of the magazine because a weapon has an open bolt. The Mac 10/11 series can be powerful; there are variants from .380ACP up to .45ACP. It's not a single gun. |
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Oct 25 2005, 05:11 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
IRL, I'd go for...well...any of the above, if I could have them legally.
In Shadowrun? I'm somewhat infamous for my Supermach preference, and the kills it's gotten me. |
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Oct 25 2005, 05:12 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I believe this line refers to the Called Shot rules, where people seem to think a called shot negates armor and boosts the damage level. This issue has been beaten to death, but I believe the final verdict was no sane GM would let his players used called shot to avoid armor using a standard gun, and nothing in the rules indicates that this should be the case. |
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