 Dirty rotten cheats, Cheating in Shadowrun |
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 Oct 26 2005, 09:29 PM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,219 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lofwyr's stomach. Member No.: 1,320  |
Oh, no. That'd be like trying to play a game without knowing the rules. You are allowed to pick any company that you like, based on any knowledge that is publically available.
However, if you have any knowledge that isn't "Public" knowledge, you are cheating. Stupid really. The idea is that you can't purposely run your own company into the ground to make millions trading it's stock. However, it also can prevent you from making a lot of money when your company is doing well. And really, corporate sabotage for stock manipulation could be covered quite well under "Industrial Espionage", so I don't see why we needed to make up "Insider Trading" as a crime as well. ::Edit:: excessive use of the word really:: |
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Oct 26 2005, 09:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,812 |
If you want real lawyer fun, ask them to define "assault" or "intellectually impaired". Even better is "insanity".
But anyway, thank you all very much for your responses. I hadn't thought of intimidation as being useful in poker, although I suppose that's exactly what bluffing is, so good thinking there. The intention is to create a character ideally suited to cheating at casinos, since a lot of the magic/tech involved will be also useful in shadowrunning terms. My only real experience with casinos is visiting them in my home town and also watching "Las Vegas", so I haven't had first-hand experience with the really large world-class casinos. Can anyone confirm for me that they refuse to allow anyone to use cell phones in the gaming pit, and don't allow people to leave anything on the table for any card games (ie mobile phones, drinks, handbags etc)? |
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Oct 26 2005, 10:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: 21-October 05 From: In a Starbucks™ café near you Member No.: 7,870 |
I don't know about Vegas, but as far as Atlantic City casinos go, that is correct. Drinks are okay though. Incidentally, if you're cool with picking up an otherwise useless metamagic, Divining can give you an impossible to defeat edge on the gambling scene. |
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Oct 26 2005, 10:28 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 62 Joined: 14-January 05 Member No.: 6,976 |
Maybe. You need to assense the subject of your diviniation. Subject is pretty loosely defined. If the GM is nice, all you'd have to assense would be the casino itself (masking ward!) or the dealer you're playing against. I for one wouldn't be so nice. So, diviniation is easily defeated by, oh, switching the dice, deck of cards, dealer, etc. |
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Oct 26 2005, 10:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: 21-October 05 From: In a Starbucks™ café near you Member No.: 7,870 |
The subject of the divination can be yourself.
If your GM doesn't let that fly, and I can't imagine why he wouldn't, you can just use a ritual sample. |
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Oct 26 2005, 11:04 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Traditionally (but not necessarily reflected in SR canon), Divination was considered somewhat less effective when used on the diviner him/herself. |
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Oct 26 2005, 11:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: 21-October 05 From: In a Starbucks™ café near you Member No.: 7,870 |
What do you mean by "traditionally"? As in previous editions? As in general consensus?
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Oct 26 2005, 11:13 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
As in according to actual real traditions. |
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Oct 26 2005, 11:14 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
I don't think that is what he is talking about. The perception of magic as being real by some people is a topic for a different time.
I think he means in a traditional fantasy setting. Or in fantasy in general. Similiar to 'Elves' have pointed ears. |
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Oct 26 2005, 11:40 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I mean all of the above, with the exception to Shadowrun in specific, which never had anything to say on the matter. Mostly though, I meant in the real world, tarot-turning, star-gazing, palm-reading divination sense, using the 'art' for one's self is generally considered to have less than optimal, and even somewhat misleading effects. |
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Oct 26 2005, 11:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: 21-October 05 From: In a Starbucks™ café near you Member No.: 7,870 |
I was actually unaware of that, although to a cynical mind it would make perfect sense. I'll have to look into it.
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Oct 27 2005, 12:47 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,028 Joined: 9-November 02 From: The Republic of Vermont Member No.: 3,581 |
Gotta have some excuse to explain to the skeptics why real-world "diviners" are making their living scamming the gullible out of their money instead of just divining themselves some lottery numbers.
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Oct 27 2005, 08:27 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Exactly! :D |
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