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 Nov 4 2005, 04:21 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 3-November 05 Member No.: 7,923  |
is it me, or is this item not in the book? the Drone Rigger has AR goggles, but there is no such itim in the equipment chapter.
there are Goggles, that can have low light etc put on them. Are stock goggles AR goggles? |
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Nov 4 2005, 04:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 3-November 05 Member No.: 7,923 |
semi-related question, if you upgrade your hardware per page 240, do you have to pay for each step?
i mean, if you have an item with signal 2, and you want signal 5, is it 150+500+1000 to go from 2 to 3 to 4 to 5? |
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Nov 4 2005, 04:29 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
My assumption was that you needed something with an image display hooked to a commlink and there was your AR. So, I'd say get goggs with an image link attached to the commlink....
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Nov 4 2005, 04:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 78 |
They're just regular goggles with an image link modification.
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Nov 4 2005, 04:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 78 |
No. Just buy the level you want |
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Nov 4 2005, 06:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 3-November 05 Member No.: 7,923 |
so, if you want to have a mighty comlink, you just buy the cheapest there is, the Meta Link for 100, then pay 4000 for responce 5, and 1000 for signal 5? that's cheaper than buying a stock one, for 5100 you get a 5/5, but a Transys Avalon is 5000 and it's 4/4. To match the Traysys Avalon would be 100+2000+500 = 2600, a lot better than 5000 of course, even if you did pay for each level it's cheaper to start with a Metalink it start as 1/2, raising it to 5/5 and paying for each level is 4000 to raise to Responce 4 (750+1250+2000) and 650 to raise to signal 4. that's 4750 for the smae as a 5000 Transys Avalon. anoter 500 raises the signal to 5, that's 4250 to match an 8000 Fairlight Caliban |
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Nov 4 2005, 06:32 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Yes, it's like a kit computer you put together yourself. Of course the GM should likely have you go through an Extended Hardware Test of some sort to make sure you don't Glitch putting it together. :vegm: But the rules don't explicitly mention that particular test, much less numbers that test should use.
EDIT: I'd guess something like (10, 1 hour). Or even (10+Rating, 1 hour). Maybe a bit smaller interval time than that? *shrug* |
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Nov 4 2005, 06:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 3-November 05 Member No.: 7,923 |
easy enough to start with it already done
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Nov 4 2005, 06:39 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
If the GM allows that, sure. But if it was me, and you hadn't been generous tossing in for the pizza delivery? ;) Well i'd say your PC starts play with a crappy commlink and a nice, shiny, shrink-wrapped box containing the upgrade parts. Hope you remembered to buy an electronics toolbox to help you out. :) |
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Nov 4 2005, 06:49 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,219 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lofwyr's stomach. Member No.: 1,320 |
Hell, why buy the metalink to begin with? my view is that if you are making a custom commlink, you just buy the hardware as listed in the book and bam, you are good to go. I mean, what do you need a base commink for, anyway? A case?
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Nov 4 2005, 06:59 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Case/frame and battery. I'm dropping 5K or 11K on the upgrades? I'll still grinning ear to ear as i lay down the 100 :nuyen: for the Meta Link, or even 300 :nuyen: for the CMT Clip, to keep from broadcasting so loudly that i've got a custom built box. *shrug* |
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Nov 4 2005, 07:03 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,219 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lofwyr's stomach. Member No.: 1,320 |
Yeah, but that isn't stricktly required. I figure that all the peripheral junk like batteries and wires are included in the upgrade cost. And cases should be too. If you want to make it look like a metalink, sure, get a metalink. I usually get mine implanted, so it's not an issue.
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Nov 4 2005, 07:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 3-November 05 Member No.: 7,923 |
several (well, the Drone rigger at least, I haven't checked the others ) have custom commlinks with higher ratings.
I was recreating the Drone Rigger, plannin on modding him later, and I didn't know what to bill for the custom commlink so if an archtype can start with a custom commlink, I think a custom char could as well |
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Nov 4 2005, 10:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 3-November 05 Member No.: 7,923 |
another rigger question, if you buy a copy of FIrewall 5, can you put it on all your drones?
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Nov 4 2005, 11:57 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
yes. and your commlink(s). and your cyberware. and your clothes. (flavor text indicates they are wireless to some extent). and anything that could conceivably have a computer in it. |
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Nov 5 2005, 03:04 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 30-October 05 From: Oslo, Norway Member No.: 7,911 |
I guess it's a license issue. If your GM allows you to copy your programs to several devices you would only have to pay for them once no matter how many comlinks or other devices you buy. If your GM follows in the footsteps of MPAA, RIAA and all the others who would have had decades to promote thier view on licenses and copyright laws you would have to pay for each instalation of the programs. |
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Nov 5 2005, 09:57 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
If you're a law-abiding citizen. How many shadowrunners are law-abiding citizens? Oh, that's right. None of them are. |
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Nov 5 2005, 03:47 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
yeah, i suppose i should clarify:
if you have a cracked copy of a firewall program, you can install it on whatever you like. kinda like real life. for example, if someone has a cracked copy of a game, they could share that with their friends and have a LAN party. is it legal? no. does it happen? you better believe it. alternatively, if you have the software skill, you can have it written into your background that you wrote your own firewall program, and thus you would actually have the legal right to put it on whatever you want (provided you own it, or have the owner's permission, naturally). |
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Nov 7 2005, 10:11 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 14-August 03 Member No.: 5,492 |
Most hacker programs are custom jobs in my universe. Sure it may only use 100 MP of storage, but that is about one zillion pages of 'text' storage.
So Joe the hacker goes to "Hacker-House" to buy a killer 6 attack program.. He wants it to look like a samurai sword, neon-chrome, that goes "ShwanG!!!" when it is swung. The hacker house makes his program and he spends credits on it, deal is done... Now.. included in that code is about 10 zillion refferences (encrypted of course) of lines like "Customer: 0000202028984092H@s7 bought this." Since it is such a tiny bit of information, encrypted to high heaven, in 10 billion lines of code... there is a pretty good chance it could not be removed from the application without re-writing the entire application. If a few month's down the road a sysop of Hacker-house finds a neon-chrome sword program on the "free warz" sites, he can download it, run it through his encrypted tag reader and look up the reference... Hmm.. looks like Joe the hacker thinks its OK to share our stuff... Maybe one of our hundreds of Hacker clients would be happy to teach Joe the error of his ways for a 10% discount on their next purchase. ... |
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Nov 8 2005, 01:21 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
well, yes... if you try to sell it, then you're gonna be screwed. or put it up for general availability, then once again, you'll have problems.
but if you (and possibly even your team) use that program, i doubt they'll be able to find it. and the team's hacker (or technomancer) should be able to find that line of code, if only by using an agent or sprite to search through the entire program 1 line at a time to find it... sure, it might take a while, but it could be done. |
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Nov 8 2005, 03:35 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 2-September 05 Member No.: 7,673 |
And he is of course a moron if he uses a traceable ID to buy that restricted software and as such deserves any crap that lands in his lap :)
Hmm sounds like a good "First Run" for a new to the hacker archetype player so they can get a feel for how to run. |
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