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post Nov 7 2005, 06:29 AM
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butcher has written the "Homefall" series, the "Dresden Files" and the "Star Risk LTD." series, currently i think he's trying his hand at straight out fantasy with "Furies of Calderon" and "Academ's Fury" all very good books in my mind and while the "Homefall" series and "Furies" books dont go anywhere near any kind of SR style, the "Dresden Files" is a dark world kind of book series the lead character being a wizard private eye, and the "Star Risk LTD." series is sci-fi about a black ops merc group in the far future
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post Nov 7 2005, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE (Enigma @ Nov 6 2005, 11:01 PM)
SLJames - I've read all the Vince Flynn books.  In my defence, I blatantly gut them for plot ideas then store the books somewhere convenient, like propping up my wobbly piano or mulching my garden.  I haven't yet had the pleasure of Patrick Robinson.

I... Wow. I stand in awe.

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In terms of Shadowrun books, I think Nyx Smith writes very atmospheric novels which really saved my interest in SR during SR2.  They're eminently re-readable also, which I think is high praise.  I also liked Nigel Findlay's work a bit and would be happy to see more by Dowd.  I like to think of Jack Koke as having written the one novel everyone has inside them and done well (Preying for Keeps), however he unfortunately tried a second time and found he only really had one novel inside him.  Headhunters was both incomprehensible and exacerbating, which doesn't even make sense.

That was Mel Odom. Jak Koke wrote Dead Air, which is my second favorite novel after Burning Bright. Odom's version of Argent is, well, unsettling.

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And I thoroughly agree that Steven Kenson writes a mean sourcebook (look at Awakenings, for God's sake) and a horrible, pathetic novel.  I've never laughed out loud at a book (note not WITH a book, AT a book) as much as his attempts at Shadowrun fiction.  Talon is the worst example of a favourite character who can do no wrong in Shadowrun (because I firmly believe Ryan Mercury was and remains a bad acid trip, not the product of logical thought).

Amongst other things.
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post Nov 7 2005, 11:46 AM
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Matthew Reilly. If you've ever read any of his books, I think you'd agree.

I'd like to see Reilly. At 200m, running, through the sights of an MG-3. 8)

As for authors:

Stackpole would do okay

Ringo might be nice if he could snap out of his post 9/11 "Hurray Amerika" mode

After reading BOLO, I consider David Weber an option

David Drake (Hammer Slammers) is dead otherwise he'd write a mean Rigger

S.M Stirling and Pournelle for Mercenary action in SR

Walter Jon Williams (Hardwired)

Efflinger (When gravity fails)


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post Nov 7 2005, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (nick012000 @ Nov 5 2005, 06:28 AM)
Matthew Reilly. If you've ever read any of his books, I think you'd agree.

I'd like to see Reilly. At 200m, running, through the sights of an MG-3. 8)
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What's that supposed to mean?
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post Nov 7 2005, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE (nick012000 @ Nov 7 2005, 12:39 PM)
QUOTE (Birdy @ Nov 7 2005, 06:46 AM)
QUOTE (nick012000 @ Nov 5 2005, 06:28 AM)
Matthew Reilly. If you've ever read any of his books, I think you'd agree.

I'd like to see Reilly. At 200m, running, through the sights of an MG-3. 8)
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Birdy

What's that supposed to mean?

You have seen "Saving Private Ryan"? The scene where the US guys land? The weapon that the good guys ;) are using against them is an MG-3[1]

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Okay, make it 400m, otherwise there's no fun in it


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[1] Actually an MG-42 but the differences are minimal. The manufacturer calls the MG-3 an MG-42/59, MG-3 is german army parlance.
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post Nov 7 2005, 02:06 PM
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the good guys

You missed a smiley.
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post Nov 7 2005, 03:58 PM
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I'd echo John Sandford. Didn't he write the Lucas Davenport series? IIRC, Sandford made Davenport a game designer, too. Could mean that he (Sandford) wouldn't be a complete virgin to the genre.

How about Dale Brown? Everyone's a rigger!
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post Nov 7 2005, 04:09 PM
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How about Dale Brown? Everyone's a rigger!

More exactly every good guy is a Rigger, using advanced B52s, ignoring presidential orders and getting promoted/decorated for saving the world.

Might just as well as the StarGate writers to do a novel. Or Joss Wedon!


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post Nov 7 2005, 06:05 PM
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Personally I'd like to see Tom Clancy's covert ops ideas put into a SR setting.
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post Nov 7 2005, 10:01 PM
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I'd like to see Clancy shot out of a cannon face-first into a brick wall.

Or, as I said earlier, "But really anyone who doesn't turn it into fetish porn for SR players by going into minutiae about tech ... while forgoing actual story," which would eliminate both Brown and Clancy.
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post Nov 8 2005, 02:56 AM
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Waitaminnit, are we discussing style, or skill?
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post Nov 8 2005, 04:37 AM
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Both.
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post Nov 8 2005, 07:19 AM
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I would have thought the problem with Clancy writing SR (assuming SLJames doesn't get his cannon-related wish) is that he would suffer a simultaneous coronary and stroke at the thought of the US no longer existing. Speaking as a non-American, his books are unreadable because of the continual overwhelming Americanism of them (I'm assuming for the moment I haven't just invented a new word). Although technically brilliant (ie brilliant in technical details) and obviously well researched, they can't be read as fiction, as far as I am concerned. More a well written technical or training manual of some kind.
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Quite true. It's about as interesting as watching paint dry.
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post Nov 8 2005, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE (Enigma)
I would have thought the problem with Clancy writing SR (assuming SLJames doesn't get his cannon-related wish) is that he would suffer a simultaneous coronary and stroke at the thought of the US no longer existing. Speaking as a non-American, his books are unreadable because of the continual overwhelming Americanism of them (I'm assuming for the moment I haven't just invented a new word). Although technically brilliant (ie brilliant in technical details) and obviously well researched, they can't be read as fiction, as far as I am concerned. More a well written technical or training manual of some kind.

Actually Clancy isn't all that well researched. He makes numerous small errors that could easily be avoided by minimal research. Like his german Landwehr and police Leutenants in "Red Storm".

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post Nov 8 2005, 10:15 AM
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I would have thought the problem with Clancy writing SR (assuming SLJames doesn't get his cannon-related wish) is that he would suffer a simultaneous coronary and stroke at the thought of the US no longer existing. Speaking as a non-American, his books are unreadable because of the continual overwhelming Americanism of them (I'm assuming for the moment I haven't just invented a new word). Although technically brilliant (ie brilliant in technical details) and obviously well researched, they can't be read as fiction, as far as I am concerned. More a well written technical or training manual of some kind.

He actually -- in a way -- writes those, too. I recall seeing a few just called "Submarine" or "US Army Special Forces" or "Marines" or whatever, of his, that are more or less textbooks on the subject. I can't imagine reading through them. It would have to be like reading his books, but somehow more boring and with less character.

And it's not his "Americanism" that bothers me, it's that everyon talks the same, acts the same, everyone always makes the right choice, etc, etc. His dialogue, in particular, makes me want to gouge out my eyes instead of flip the page.
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