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Turjon Apocritus
post Nov 21 2005, 01:13 PM
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Hello all,
I have been reading the awakened section a few times now and i think i read my self in circles because i am lost on an issue.

What can a character astrally percieving(dual natured) attack with a spell. As i see it he can attack both physically a meatbody or an astral form with a mana spell. Also an astrally projecting person can only attack other astral form but he instead uses his astral skill.


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Can a astrally percieving/projecting mage/adept attack a mundane persons astral persona.
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post Nov 21 2005, 01:18 PM
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1, correct. Dual natured beings (including magicians or adepts using Astral Perception) are present on both planes and can effect both planes. A being that is present on a single plane can only effect that plane.

2 Mundanes don't have any astral presence under normal circumstances. Only those under the influance of an Astral Shallow or the Astral Gateway power are vulnerable to astral attacks. .
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post Nov 21 2005, 01:33 PM
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Ok so the mundanes aura us just that an aura and not a persona that he has in astral space that he doesn not know how to "work with".

So then my next question is does a mage/adept have an astral presense if he is not percieving or projecting.
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post Nov 21 2005, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE (Turjon Apocritus @ Nov 22 2005, 12:33 AM)
So then my next question is does a mage/adept have an astral presense if he is not percieving or projecting.

No more than any other mundane.
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post Nov 21 2005, 02:02 PM
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thank you all for the help
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post Nov 22 2005, 06:09 PM
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Just remember that any spellcasting the mage does will show up (spillover) into the astral plan - and thus why you can track spell use. Even if you aren't exposed to danger that way, it can tell others where a mage is without them perceiving or projecting. Technically, assensing them from the astral plane might tell you that too.

I don't think any adept powers will ever spill over normally speaking, especially since the idea of an adept is 'inward' not outward. The Mystic Adept will have that problem with spells however.
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post Nov 22 2005, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE (Cold-Dragon @ Nov 22 2005, 12:09 PM)
I don't think any adept powers will ever spill over normally speaking, especially since the idea of an adept is 'inward' not outward.

Over the years this has been, er, debated ;) extensively for SR3 on DSF. Most powers are not contentious. But there is a bit of disagreement about things that cause drain (Attribute Boost), more so with things where a magical construct may, or may not be the point of contact with an external obect (Killing Hands), and even more yet about powers that work at a distance (Distance Strike) or maintain a link over distance (Death Touch or something?).

Some of those powers haven't made it to SR4 [yet], but the less contended ones have. Using Search on the main forum (edit: make sure to set it to a longer timeframe than 30 days) should dredge up more dialog on the subject than mere mortals were intended to endure. :dead:
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