 Initiation versus Magic Attribute Increase, Which is it better to do? |
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 Nov 28 2005, 10:49 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 388 Joined: 24-October 05 Member No.: 7,885  |
But like I said, where's the profit in it? hehe.
Getting a team like that, you'd be just as well knocking over the talismonger selling the talismen, not the maker. |
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Nov 28 2005, 10:54 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
....until Street Magic comes out with Material Links. |
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Nov 28 2005, 10:57 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Sometimes you just need the possibility and convincing the target of a credible threat for the shakedown to work. Otherwise thumbing him under from a distance is a relatively clean way to rob him of all his possesions....and then getting him to do something for you. |
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Nov 28 2005, 11:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 388 Joined: 24-October 05 Member No.: 7,885 |
Maybe, but honestly there's just alot more low profile, high profit targets out there, I just don't see where the % is coming from on that.
That much magical Power would be much better suited for a higher profit shakedown. |
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Nov 28 2005, 11:31 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
You are missing the part about the perception of threat. You can shave some % there. After that it is dependant on the particular talismonger, and how "low profile" they are. *shrug* P.S. As a GM i'd see it as a great hook for a favour for a friend opportunity, sending the PCs out after a magical threat that is trying to extort from one of their Contacts or from a contact of a Contact. :) |
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Nov 28 2005, 11:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 388 Joined: 24-October 05 Member No.: 7,885 |
I can see it as a mission easily, I'm talking as a way of making money tracking down talismongers and shaking em down with threats of ritual sorcery seems a bit risky for a low profit margin.
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Nov 29 2005, 12:39 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 504 Joined: 8-November 05 From: North Vancouver, BC Member No.: 7,936 |
On the ritual sorcery part, say the spotter is a bound spirit right? What about if the shop/home of the talismonger is also their lodge, which keeps out all spirits and projecting/percepting magicians that don't have permission to enter?
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Nov 29 2005, 01:02 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
It creates an astral barrier, same as a ward. The issue is that in past canon it is unprotected from entry from the metaplanes (and nothing really in the SR4 BBB to counter that). |
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Nov 29 2005, 01:03 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
How can you envision it as a mission if you can't envision someone attempting it? |
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Nov 29 2005, 01:38 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 388 Joined: 24-October 05 Member No.: 7,885 |
Because it's not something I can see as players wanting to do because of the low profit in it.
a say, organized crime group doing it I can. |
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Nov 29 2005, 01:56 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
I wasn't talking nessasarily from a PC team doing it. I do agree that unless the GM is seriously starving their game for cash/gear players aren't likely to get into it. |
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 Mar 6 2006, 06:47 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Halifax, Canada Member No.: 7,975 |
With all this debate going on, I'm really wondering why someone would want to attack the Talismonger to begin with... So you go through the effort of defeating any wards, defensive spells, spirits, etc the talismonger has. You manage to kill him.
a) If the event can be tracked to you in any way, you have a great potential of making an enemy of any client that talismonger regularly deals with. b) If the event can be tracked to you in any way, you most likely have alienated yourself from any other talismonger with enough street savvy to have heard of the event. c) To do any kind of ritual sorcery with more than one mage/shaman, you'd have to find enough magically active people who would want to agree with you that attacking a talismonger would be a good idea. (remember, the magic shop is your source for magical materials on the street, don't bite off the hand that feeds you!) After these three points are presented, and you still think killing your magic item source is a good idea, then you're welcome to any hairbrain result that you think you're trying to acheive. While you're at it, why don't you kill your fixer, your gun dealer or any other supplier you use, as it'll serve the same resuly. |
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Mar 6 2006, 04:30 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
To be accurate, that particular debate stopped on Nov 28th. :) |
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