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Dec 9 2005, 02:29 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 344 Joined: 5-January 05 From: Wherever this piece of meat rests. Member No.: 6,937 |
Wow, I had to think long and hard about this one. I can't think of many "characters" that I actually like in Shadowrun (at least enough to incorporate them into my game). I like the Lone Gunman from back in the day before the X-Files ripped him off. I've never had a problem with Lofwyr, mainly cause he's so erratic and alien he can do anything and it would make perfect sense to him. Plus he stomped his bro Alamaise, and that is one old ass Great Dragon. I always kind of dug Damian Knight as someone that schemes "almost" as well as a Great Dragon to keep himself at the top of his little empire. I can list my most hated characters though.
Mr Darke AKA Senor Oscuro. The Dragon Heart trilogy ruined him. Any of the twink Immortal Elves (Like Harlequin) Pink Floyd?, after living for over 6000 years you run around with t shirts from a band that is over sixty friggin years old! Why not a Salieri tatoo as well! And a special loathing for the ultimate in twink crap characters, Ryan Mercury. I'd rather be sodomized by Talon than have to ever read about Ryan Mercury banging Nadja Daviar again. :nuyen: :nuyen: :nuyen: |
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Dec 9 2005, 02:34 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 18-November 05 Member No.: 7,978 |
I think that deserves mention. Not sure what kind, but I laughed. :) |
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Dec 9 2005, 03:02 AM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Why would Novatech need to Thor shot a corporate shark? Seriously.
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Dec 9 2005, 03:04 AM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Lofwyr hasn't been mentioned. I guess he isn't a character so much as a nexus of political and financial power. Same with pretty much every other authority figure, which makes sense. And Nadja Daviar isn't hot anymore; she's 56 years old, and for elves, that's around 40. Isn't it? Or do they live REALLY long?
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Dec 9 2005, 03:08 AM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,507 Joined: 27-January 05 From: ...and I'm all out of bubblegum Member No.: 7,021 |
They couldn't get to him with a strike team fast enough. |
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Dec 9 2005, 03:11 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
Henzo Shotozumi.
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Dec 9 2005, 03:12 AM
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Chrome to the Core ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
System Failure.
Yup. |
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Dec 9 2005, 03:16 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
What the Hell, I guess I better read my copy then, some messed up dreck is going down in that book. |
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Dec 9 2005, 03:21 AM
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Chrome to the Core ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Very, very good book. On par with, if not better than, Cybertech. Nothing beats UB or Bug City, however.
None of the other SR3 sourcebooks gripped me as much as SF did. In fact, only a few of the SR2 books did. Nothing recent, unfortunately. And then they moved immediately on to 4th Ed. Kind of killed the flow they had for the few moments they had it. Sigh. |
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Dec 9 2005, 04:06 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 6,299 |
So many to choose from..
Of all of them, i'd have to say Dirk Montgomery. Noirish, gritty detectives -when well done- are a favorite character type of mine. Honorable Mentions: Art Dankwalther: Yeah, i liked him. Or rather i liked the idea behind the character. Alfredo Garcia: In a sourcebook (cant remember the name, or if it was 1st or second edition) there was a musical loving, dancing sasquath who tended bar in some English pub. Argent and Matador: Consumate professionals. Plain and simple. Perianwyr: One music lover to another. |
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Dec 9 2005, 04:22 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 17-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,912 |
dirk montgomery. I loved his stories and his attitude. any news about him after house of the sun? i still can't believe that Nigel Findley died.
Wolfgang Keis. Who cares if he doesn't follow in game rules? one bad motherfragger, if you ask me. Dodger, Cap Chaos, Fast Jack, Jack the Ripper, Remy. love 'em all. whatever happened to Jack the Ripper? i know that remy is still floating around somewheres. and what about zapper weisman? Dunklezahn. I always had a soft spot for him. Ghost-who-walks-inside. Argent. Hatchetman. Cybertechnology brought a whole new perspective to being a street sam for me. Sam Verner. Did he get his magic back after the secrets of power trilogy? and so many more... |
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Dec 9 2005, 06:44 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Alfie was in Prime Runners.
System Failure had a lot of just completely f-ed up stuff in it. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone likes Sutherland. |
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Dec 9 2005, 07:45 AM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I dunno, I thought he was pretty cool as Bauer in 24. His dad was a pretty good president, too, I thought, even though I haven't seen West Wing in probably five years or so. Granted, Young Guns and Young Guns 2 weren't exactly high cinema, and The Cowboy Way was more funny than anything...else...but... Hey, wait. What are we talking about again? |
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Dec 9 2005, 10:21 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 7-December 05 Member No.: 8,054 |
Picking up on the thoughts of SL James and TeOdio, Damian Knight does deserve special mention as far as Shadowrun NPC's go. He is, in a way, sort of like the old Detective archetype writ large. He has no reality bending magic powers, no cyberware to boost his physical abilities to super(meta)human levels, and he is not a god in the martix. Instead he relies on his intelligence, skills, resources, and contacts (although, in those catagories he is super(meta)human). He does not even own his corporation outright, yet he competes against, and triumphs over, those who use their magic and cybernetics to get there way (as opposed to, say, Azetech where magic and dirty tricks are the rule for success; or Mitsuhama, where stories abound about the nasty surprises their CEO "hands" out to those who displease him with his monster cyber-claw).
And, for those of us with a less than favorable opnion of Ryan "Twink-Silver" Mercury, let us not forget (or, even better, take a minute to remember fondly) that when Twink-Silver ran up against Damian Knight, it was not Knight that ended up naked and cuffed on a concrete floor with a pair of Troll Company men pointing assult rifles at his back. Which, is not to say, of course, that Damian Knight is not a total prick, just that he is a very cool total prick, in the way only a fictional character can be. |
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Dec 9 2005, 11:26 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 31-March 05 From: Georgia Member No.: 7,270 |
Fictional Characters, or Dumpshock regulars. |
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Dec 9 2005, 11:33 AM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
There are very cool Dumpshock regulars?
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Dec 9 2005, 12:39 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 10-September 05 From: Montevideo, in the elusive shadows of Latin America Member No.: 7,727 |
Sure there are...
Back to topic: Coolest: Damien "Gavilan" Knight Argent Matador Hated Ryan Mercury Ryan Mercury Ryan Mercury |
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Dec 9 2005, 12:42 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 10-September 05 From: Montevideo, in the elusive shadows of Latin America Member No.: 7,727 |
And I also hated Sam Verner
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Dec 9 2005, 02:56 PM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
Just you. :) |
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Dec 9 2005, 03:26 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Usually under a cat Member No.: 864 |
I can't speak for anybody else, but I can tell you why I like him. I like powerful characters with style, especially smart sarcastic ones. Especially smart sarcastic British ones. I like characters that are very good at what they do, but not good at everything. I like characters with flaws. Sutherland fits all those criteria, plus he's an uberdecker, rather high on himself, dresses well, loves his comforts--but is still a bit of an insufferable twit on occasion and ended up with some bad stuff happening to him that caused him some pretty severe limitations. I don't think that just because a character is powerful that necessarily has to make him a twink or a munchkin. Ryan Mercury is both, and I can't stand him. Does anybody like ol' Ryan? C'mon--somebody speak up if you do! |
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Dec 9 2005, 03:36 PM
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Canon Companion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
I like Ryan. Except his taste in nipples. :D
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Dec 9 2005, 05:43 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Hm. I'll stick with my criteria of, "would the game universe be less without them."
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Dec 13 2005, 02:52 AM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
In no order:
Chuck-Chuck Razool (Can't beat a street name like that) Cap the Knife, aka Casper (ditto) Wolfgang Kies (for the reasons listed) Jack Skater (not Slater as previously mentioned) Kid Stealth (he's an icon) Derek Montgomery (gumshoe much?) Bloodwing aka Blackwing (THE elven hitman. Period.) The Big D (why not?) Archangel (Ice Queen in love...) Harlequin (c'mon, he's cool) Chance (first published Insect Shaman) Alice Crenshaw (women can be cold killers too. even in 1989) |
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Dec 13 2005, 01:54 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 22-November 02 From: Gordonsville, Virginia, U.S.A. (or C.A.S.) Member No.: 3,630 |
Critias:
With all due respect, the role of "President Josiah 'Jed' Bartlet" in The West Wing is played by Martin Sheen, not Donald Sutherland. I think that you *might* have the families mixed up. :) Everyone else: Please excuse me for this brief off-topic excursion. I now return you to your regularly-scheduled Dumpshock Forums. :P --Foreigner |
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Dec 13 2005, 04:53 PM
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Karma Police ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
I happen to like Harlequin as I imagined him after reading the first of his adventures, and some of his shadowtalk. That isnīt to say I like all accounts of him in the novels, or any of them actually. That heīs a bit out of fashion all the time is a good idea by his creators. It gives the GM a chance to make him seem wise when just speaking about bands of the -90īs or something, and itīs natural that someone with a long lifespan would not follow the sota fashion even if itīs one of the more "hip" old ones around.
Derek Montgomery is the best of the lead characterīs in all of the SR novels. and maybe the coolest one: Alice. Living in her noir, celluloid city thatīs a world of itīs own in the matrix, chain smoking virtual cigarettes, being a mysterious ghost in the machine and part of the most intruiging meta-plotmakes her no1. Thatīs an honest of-the-top-of-my-head list of the ones that I remember thinking, "wow, thatīs cool" when reading about. |
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