 Captain Chaos, coming back |
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 Dec 20 2005, 04:02 AM
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Prime Runner  Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221  |
I finally got my hand on the great crash of 2065 and I've only read some of it but after what was said about Captain Chaos I had to look into that first. Sure his meatbody is gone, but is cap? He was saved but is not supposed to be aware. He is. I think he's truly become the gohst in the machine.
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Dec 20 2005, 04:29 AM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
yerr... maybe he's alive walter john williams style. (Read "HardWired" if you don't know what I'm talking about.)
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Dec 20 2005, 05:21 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 288 Joined: 7-December 04 Member No.: 6,873 |
Nah, he is gone.
And that is why I am not playing SR4. I love the cap. I love him like a father. When I am done with SR, and I never plan to run again. Then I will play the System Failure adventures, and advance my timeline. Except it ends with nuclear apocalypse, not "virtual reality." /bitter. |
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Dec 20 2005, 05:43 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Waterloo, ON Member No.: 7,900 |
Captain Chaos is gone and dead.
[ Spoiler ]
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Dec 20 2005, 06:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 175 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Imperial Japan Member No.: 6,483 |
Yet another reason why not to get SR4 *sniff*
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Dec 20 2005, 02:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 27-May 03 From: Detroit Member No.: 4,642 |
Having read System Failure, i would say that CC is dead... unless a writer decides to bring him back. If no one writes further about him, he is dead but I feel that the text left a tiny crack open for CC to be around in the same manner as Kyle Haeffner's wife (from Echo Mirage, I can't remember her first name at the moment). I know that many feel that CC is gon-iddily-one but it is fiction and who knows what the future would bring.
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Dec 20 2005, 03:37 PM
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Alice....hence her UV host, Wonderland |
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Dec 20 2005, 04:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 27-May 03 From: Detroit Member No.: 4,642 |
Thanks.
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Dec 20 2005, 05:02 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
didnt alice go down the hole in system failure?
ok so the cap is dead, so be it. he would die from old age at one point anyways. or maybe he would be put on ice, like that character in cyberpunk 2020? change is needed at times. only that we humans hate change unless we initiate it ourselfs. something about the feeling of control over out own lifes and so on... |
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Dec 20 2005, 05:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 18-November 05 Member No.: 7,978 |
But, but, but what if the Cap became an AI. Then he could live forever and usher in a new era of fun flava text!!!
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Dec 20 2005, 06:16 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
...or subsequent books could be written by other characters in the Shadowrun world. Captain Chaos was cool, but I think it's also cool that he was awesome without being another ancient elf or unstoppable dragon. He really was just a man, and like all men he had a beginning and an end.
-Frank |
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Dec 20 2005, 06:25 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
allso, the ol cap only made some opening statements and handed the word over to the people in the real know of a subject. about the only other time he showed his face in flavortexts and similar was to show that he had trown away masses of junk messages and similar (kinda like your avarage web-forum admin).
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Dec 20 2005, 07:41 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i have to agree with FrankTrollman. Cap was awesome because he was just a guy, and yet the things he accomplished are as important as anything any IE or GD managed. it sucks that he's gone, but turning him into an AI or something would really take a lot away from him (starting with his body!).
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Dec 20 2005, 08:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 18-November 05 Member No.: 7,978 |
I would just like to note, I was going for sarcasm.
The idea of turning Cap into some kind of uberMatrix AI of doom who will constantly oversee the new generation of Shadowrunners makes me sad. I second that Cap was cool and is immortalized by his achievements and not by any actual immortal bits. On the other hand, if Fastjack learned about what happened to Cap, might he try and set up an AI for himself and live on in the matrix? Seems like it might be more his style, but I could be wrong. He is getting tired after all. |
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Dec 21 2005, 12:49 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Life isn't cheap in the shadows unless important characters are allowed to die.
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Dec 21 2005, 12:53 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Wrong! Read through The Neo-Anarchist's Guide to Real Life. He does some spouting for the Neo-A's. |
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Dec 21 2005, 01:50 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
heh. figures that a old book like that would do me in.
i enterd sr around late sr2 btw tanka... and maybe you loosen up on your posting style. its a bit overloaded in a way... |
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Dec 21 2005, 01:52 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
I actually entered around SR3, but my group plays SR2, so I picked up all the old books.
And, yes, my style is a bit harsh at times. If you get offended, well... I suppose that's that. |
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Dec 21 2005, 02:10 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
Wow tanka, your getting post-picked all over the place!
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Dec 21 2005, 02:16 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Not really. Just two people. No big deal, I just tend to come off as abrasive when I don't particularly mean to.
Must be the job working its way through me. |
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Dec 21 2005, 02:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 20-December 05 Member No.: 8,088 |
IF Captain Chaos is really dead now, then who will take his place? I mean officially in-game canon-wise.
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Dec 21 2005, 02:52 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
I don't have SR4, but I believe Fastjack moves into the spot.
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Dec 21 2005, 03:15 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
So the Captain's quest for information to be even more free continues, perhaps more successfully than ever with the Wireless Matrix. It's just that he isn't there to see it. -Frank |
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Dec 21 2005, 05:39 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Waterloo, ON Member No.: 7,900 |
In their quest to move away from SR3, I think we'll be seeing less kore kharacters.
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Dec 21 2005, 06:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Earth - Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund - Hannover Member No.: 7,624 |
I just hope that they keep the legend of Captain Chaos alive and do not allow him to be forgotten by future generations of Shadowrun players.
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