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 Captain Chaos, coming back |
 Dec 24 2005, 06:44 AM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607  |
I can just hear it now..... "I swear, man, if you call me "Panthro" just one more time....." :lol: |
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Dec 24 2005, 01:04 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
just a brain-fart more or less. i was bored... |
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Dec 24 2005, 11:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 903 Joined: 7-February 03 Member No.: 4,025 |
CH: going back to your spoiler on page 1, was that an opinion, an interpretation, or something you read? Inquiring minds wanna know.
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Dec 25 2005, 02:55 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 29-May 05 Member No.: 7,419 |
It's never actually stated whether or not CC is deleted. The text ends just as the program has reached the decision.
So it's possible JackBNimble decided to save CC anyway. It's equally likely that it just hit delete. But we don't know. |
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Dec 25 2005, 03:40 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
this allows GMs to go their own way.
and i hope that the writers of future products have the good sense of leaving it that way! |
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Dec 25 2005, 04:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Waterloo, ON Member No.: 7,900 |
Now that's not to say that CC *is* gone by the end of the story; JackBNimble indicates that he will be deleted but doesn't do it explicitly. However: it is then stated in the paragraph immediately following Last Man Standing that:
Since this is metatext, not flavor text, it's not as open to interpretation. |
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Dec 25 2005, 01:52 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
Of course, the metatext still refers to the Big D's death as an assassination rather than the suicide it was, so...
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Dec 25 2005, 03:53 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
a dead body does not mean that the "ghost" is deleted ;)
ok, so he have not shown up after the crash. and hopefully he will never officialy do. however i dont see the metatext eliminating the posibility that his ghost may well be floating around out there... |
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Dec 25 2005, 04:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Waterloo, ON Member No.: 7,900 |
Which is the crux of a black swan argument I'm not going to involve myself in. Until I see metatext declaring his triumphant return, though (and don't get me wrong, I agree it'll probably happen,) I will assume he's dead until it's been declared otherwise. And although White Wolf's buying into a world without metaplot, I'm pretty sure FanPro isn't... though wouldn't that be cool if they were? If you could run games without being contradicted by later releases?
Restoring someone to life after their sacrifice cheapens it. Jesus got a by, no one else should be trying to upstage Jesus, dragon or no. |
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Dec 26 2005, 04:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 20-December 05 Member No.: 8,088 |
Actually Jesus upstaged a lot of people that came before him...
And I LOVE Metaplot. |
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Dec 26 2005, 07:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 388 Joined: 24-October 05 Member No.: 7,885 |
in RL, only if you buy several religions are valid theory, no one upstaged jesus unless you're a heratic.
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Dec 26 2005, 07:12 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Liper: Check out the history of Simon Magus and John the Baptist. Jesus did upstage a lot of people. Whether anyone has ever upstaged Jesus...well, that's a personal opinion. The prophet Muhammed certainly accomplished a great deal, but I don't think it was ever his intention to upstage Jesus.
[/edit] And it is heretic. |
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Dec 26 2005, 07:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 388 Joined: 24-October 05 Member No.: 7,885 |
great, john the baptist is relevant to jesus not bieng upstaged how? oh it's not, moot point =p Muhhamed isn't recognized by the bible (since it's after the bible) and isn't really recognized by mainstream christanity, as for spelling, obviously you figured out what I meant :rotfl: |
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Dec 26 2005, 03:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 903 Joined: 7-February 03 Member No.: 4,025 |
Best hijack ever! :D
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Dec 26 2005, 06:46 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Look, even if you're a total Christian, you have to admit that Jesus was upstaged by Barabbas. It's right there in the Christian Testament.
-Frank |
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Dec 26 2005, 07:26 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
Longinus to another legionnaire: "So, uh, how many Xp do I get for killing him?"
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Dec 27 2005, 01:53 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bangkok (sometimes Paris) Member No.: 332 |
I'm confused now... No one told me that Captain Chaos was Jesus... Damn freelancer crack, it affects memory too apparently.
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Dec 27 2005, 02:53 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
"It's worse than that; he's dead, Jim!"
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Dec 27 2005, 03:08 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
Where does it say that he killed himself? |
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Dec 27 2005, 03:15 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
A few of the novels. The Dragonheart Trilogy, especially.
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Dec 27 2005, 03:42 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
That would explain it I guess, I've never read any of the Shadowrun novels. Looking at Amazon, it looks like I'll be able to remedy that fairly soon.
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Dec 27 2005, 04:39 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
The XP is spread amongst the entire Roman empire. It's still infinite XP, though, so he probably levels up a bit. |
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Dec 27 2005, 04:55 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Rigger, please. Don't you read Barry Sadler? Casca gains so much XP he leveled up into a class that made him semi-immortal. |
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Dec 27 2005, 01:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
I kinda thought the Cpt Chaos upstaged those religious icons, cause i read his good books more than the other good books.
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Dec 27 2005, 11:40 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Georgia Member No.: 1,112 |
I just don't understand why the writers apparently feel obligated to kill off a major character at the dawn of every edition or major release. They are getting worse than a soap opera.
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