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 Dec 26 2005, 05:39 AM
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Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019  |
Why does Renraku, of all the megacorps, have a named elite squad of soldiers? Mitsuhama and S-K are both supposedly better known for their security; why is Renraku special in this respect? And which megacorp has the best physical security?
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Dec 26 2005, 05:44 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
Aztechnology has the Jaguars.
I don't think it's so much which corp has the best physical security, as which sites have the best security, regardless of who owns them. |
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Dec 26 2005, 05:55 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,507 Joined: 27-January 05 From: ...and I'm all out of bubblegum Member No.: 7,021 |
Ares Firewatch teams are mentioned as 'elite', I think.
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Dec 26 2005, 07:02 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 388 Joined: 24-October 05 Member No.: 7,885 |
Aye it's just a matter of who showed up in novels or in certain major events.
Every corp has thier own version of red samurai. |
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Dec 26 2005, 08:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Waterloo, ON Member No.: 7,900 |
Cross has "The Seraphim", Aztechnology has their Jaguars, Ares has Firewatch.. They all have named supergoons. Check out Corporate Download. It's your best source of information on corps.
Most secure group is MCT: Zero Tolerance, baby, and Yakuza hitters on the payola. Ares and Saeder Krupp are both up there as well (scoring 9/10 physical security), but MCT is the most secure of the three, canonically. |
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Dec 26 2005, 11:25 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Saeder Krupp and MCT are tied for security (both are rated 8). MCT have better Matrix but the dragon's got better maaaagic.
Top 3 of the "elite" AAA security forces 1) Ares Firewatch - Superior to Ultimate(and the only sec force to be rated so) 2) Red Samurai - Superhuman and Professional 3) Just about everyone else - Superior and Professional |
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Dec 26 2005, 04:28 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
Shiawase has the Spirit Company also.
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Dec 26 2005, 04:32 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
These guys are more spies than a combat unit like Red Sams, Jaguars or Firewatch, so i wouldn't count them. |
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Dec 26 2005, 06:43 PM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
I believe the canon mentions a group called SK Prime being Saeder Krupp's elite (i.e. Lofwyr's personal goon squad), but they are more oriented towards internal investigations.
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Dec 26 2005, 07:44 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Kami No Bushi (The Spirit Company) - Shiawise Special Forces
Black Omega (Mages), Black Alpha (Awakened), Black Nova (Shamans), Schroedinger's Cats (Deckers) - Novatech black ops Yamatetsu Naval Technologies (no military per se, but they will/do have SEAL type unit). BTW, the Jaguars are technically Aztlan's military elite, Aztechnology has no official military assets. |
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Dec 26 2005, 07:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Waterloo, ON Member No.: 7,900 |
The Seraphim are black ops, and they do handle security.
Check Corporate Download.
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Dec 26 2005, 07:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Waterloo, ON Member No.: 7,900 |
Jaguars are mentioned as being the security goons at Aztech Arcology, so they must serve in that capacity somehow. I guess they can be considered military personnel, since Aztlan *is* Aztechnology and vice versa.
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Dec 26 2005, 07:57 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Only to a degree. The Jaguars are not the security goons of the Pyramid (Aztechnolgy has its own security force); they are the elite response team stationed there by the Aztlan government to protect their assets in Seattle (there are only around 400 members of the Jaguar Guard in total) along with a unit of the Leopard Guard (regular Aztlan military), IIRC. This knowledge can be used by runners to create a conflict of interest between the corporate and national commanders in any given area. |
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Dec 26 2005, 08:58 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Jaguar and Leopard Guards are both Aztech. Back in the day, Jaguars never left the country, but that has (obviously) changed since the Aztlan SB. Jaguars are the more badass of the two.
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Dec 26 2005, 09:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 10-September 05 From: Montevideo, in the elusive shadows of Latin America Member No.: 7,727 |
I did not know about the Kami No Bushi, where's the info?
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Dec 26 2005, 09:37 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
S-K Prime is not a specops group. it's the core corporation that forms the center of S-K.
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Dec 26 2005, 09:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
The Red Samurai.
It's all about rep. |
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Dec 26 2005, 10:28 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,010 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Internal security. Primarily ferreting out spies, moles, and other security risks that don't come knocking on your door. ~J |
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Dec 26 2005, 10:40 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Yep. The Red Samurai will kick your front door in, while the Seraphim are lurking in your shadows and spy on you.
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Dec 27 2005, 02:04 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Corp Dowload, just like all the others. |
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Dec 27 2005, 05:43 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
If Mitsuhama's the hardest to break in to, does it have the best paydata, also? I know it's incredibly diversified, so one could make the case that it does, but still, it's not the biggest corp. You'd expect S-K to have, like, the best, since it's the biggest, most devious, and, as Matrix Crash 2.0 has shown, most impervious to EVERYTHING.
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Dec 27 2005, 06:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 388 Joined: 24-October 05 Member No.: 7,885 |
Bieng the biggest doesn't mean value data wise.
Wal-mart is bigger then most research groups, but stealing thier data about upcoming bargain pricing won't be half as profitable as say getting Klaxco's upcoming cancer research.... |
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Dec 27 2005, 06:36 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Soooo... Mitsuhama DOES have the best loot?
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Dec 27 2005, 08:47 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
That all depends on how you run your game and world as the GM. Maybe in your game Mitsuhama does have the best paydata hands down, or maybe the runners are working for a group that hates Saeder-Krupp, and the group is willing to pay more for paydata from SK, over say, Mitsuhama.
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Dec 27 2005, 03:25 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
I don't think the Firewatch teams are the same as the Red Samurai. They are more of commando forces that Ares doesn't want to be in public. I get the feeling that the Red Samurai do have a public image. Heck they mentioned in Trid listings!
In our games we painted Renraku of being more willing to embrace the Japanese heritage than the other corps. NCt has a pagoda matrix presence but not so much in the real world, Fuchi, remember them, really was global, Shiawase never had an image in the officvial stuff and Yamatsue kept a very low profile until Nigel Findly brought them out. |
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