 SOTA 2064, Worth it? |
 Dec 29 2005, 01:31 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110  |
With the release of the 4th Ed. is SOTA2064 is still worth it? Any idea we can salvage from that book? Or should I just let it go?
As a side note: I will probably buy it since I have every other books since 1st edition; but I was wondering if I should buy it now to implement some things into my games or if I should wait and buy it used. |
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Dec 29 2005, 01:38 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Depends. If you plan on continuing with 3rd Ed, get it. There's some fairly nifty stuff in there. If you plan on running 4th Ed, don't bother. A few of the things in SotA64 are in 4th Ed core, and I don't doubt that the rest of it won't be showing up in later sourcebooks.
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Dec 29 2005, 01:42 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110 |
thanks for the tidbits!
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Dec 29 2005, 03:14 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,784 Joined: 28-July 04 From: Cleveland, OH Member No.: 6,522 |
It also depends on what you're looking for. Obviously, if you're going SR4, the crunch isn't going to be at all applicable. But, the fluff on Magic in the book was a thoroughly enjoyable read, and since it's fluff, it's still quite relevant.
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Dec 29 2005, 03:48 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
Some of the seeming randomness in the culture section turns out to be ominous foreshadowing of things to come. Kind of glad I re-read it after reading System Failure.
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Dec 29 2005, 03:50 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Also, the info on espionage campaigns and the various Intelligence agencies is still pretty useful. A bit of the specialised gear was ported over to SR4 but sadly, the disguised equipment rules were not since they basically did away with Conceal Rating.
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Dec 29 2005, 05:19 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
I'm not too thrilled with how Games of State is directly applicable to runners, but that's why I took matters into my own hands (see the SOTA2064 archive forum).
The law enforcement chapter was also ... lacking. |
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Dec 29 2005, 06:45 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
While I'm well aware of a few of it's deficiencies, Sota '64 remains one of my favorite SR books to date. Worth every penny (which I don't say about many sourcebooks lately).
It might just be that it was largely aimed right at me (with the exception of the Magic chapter's subject matter, the book quite literally could have been called "Things Critias Likes," given it's spy-stuff, adept-stuff, and cop-stuff chapters), but I enjoyed it quite a bit. |
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Dec 29 2005, 07:55 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110 |
Thanks alot for the info guys!
After hearing what you all said (especially Critias), I'll most likely buy the book right away, thanks alot again! |
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Dec 29 2005, 01:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
Yeah I purchased the book on day 1 and i love all the material in it.
I'm a pretty CAnnon guy when it comes to shadowrun and so anything culturual i love. |
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Dec 29 2005, 01:47 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
SOTA 2064 is very worth it. Excellent reading, chock full of possibilities.
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Dec 29 2005, 02:02 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
It has Orxploitation. :ork </shameless pimping>
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Dec 29 2005, 10:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
any why havent you purchased this one yet?
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Dec 29 2005, 11:07 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110 |
Because my game store at the street corner (TheGriffon) havent restocked this book before shadow of Asia, system failure and 4th ed came out . So I'll have to go in Montréal to buy it.
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Dec 29 2005, 11:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
Mmmm I also like Montreal also.
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Dec 29 2005, 11:15 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110 |
You came to Sherby, and you saw how small it was, didnt you? It's a university'city, most peeps here are students.
On the other hand, Mtl is a HUGE megapole with alot of peeps, refered here as 'The Big city'. I know you guys in the U.S have bigger cities, but for someone like me who practicaly live in a wilderness area, city can be scary. *joke* Not scary, but still, I like more the quietness of Sherby over the agitation of Mtl. |
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Dec 30 2005, 12:46 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 5-May 05 From: in the warm blue glow of my computer monitor Member No.: 7,375 |
I love SOTA 2064, I love orcs and phsyads, and orc physads, this is a must have for orcs and physads. It goes so much deeper into orc life, and kind of makes u realize they arent that ugly... the only reason the got a cha mod, i think, is cause of the tusks and racism. and the expanded physad rules are great, specially for npc's. granted a runner wouldnt be using phsyad powers to paint better, but an npc tattoo artist or something definitely would, the powers and paths in there are great for adding some character to your characters.
PLUS, the cover has a great picture of an orc phsyad whoopin a mage! |
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Dec 30 2005, 02:48 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
I am not from the US, I'm from Hamilton Ontario.
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Dec 30 2005, 02:51 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110 |
Yikes! Should have looked better.
Sorry. |
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Dec 30 2005, 03:46 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
nah it's been worse and no need to look harder.
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Dec 30 2005, 07:11 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
It's still in stock; your local game store should be able to order/re-order it for you without a problem. |
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Dec 30 2005, 08:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
Yeah they better cause if they don't, Adam will develop a drinking problem.
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Dec 30 2005, 09:55 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Since my last campaign took place in Europe and did involve a fair amount of political intrigue as well, I found the Games of State section quite useful. Corps are not the only bullies on the block. Besides, Shadowrunners make excellent undercover operatives since they are really not on the payroll. A little slush money from the Dept. of Agriculture & everything's fine. ...if you or any of your IMF team ar captured or killed, the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Good luck Jim This tape will self destruct in five seconds." |
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Dec 30 2005, 10:47 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
The problem was that Games of State never touched on how runners could be used. But we did have rules for running as Company Men. That's just stupid.
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