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 Military Forces of the World, Countries, Corporations, and their MIGHT |
 Oct 2 2003, 04:21 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 283 Joined: 30-September 03 From: Kenmore, NY, USA Member No.: 5,663  |
I wanted to compile a list of forces of Countries, and Corporation. Basicly that are Canon to Shadowrun.
CAS SEALs [Cyberpirates 9] Aztlan Jaguar Guards [Cyberpirates 9] UCAS Navy SEALs [Cyberpirates 171] -commissioned Colt M24A3 Water Carbine Tir Tairngire Peace Force [Tir Tairngire] -High Proportion of Awakened -Paranatural Critters assist Tir Tairngire Ghosts [Tir Tairngire] -High Proportion of Awakened -Paranatural assist On a side note what do you call a person for the Tir or the Ti'r. I mean you call someone for Russia, Russian. You call someone form America an American, someone for India as Indian. You call someone from France, the French. 2:52:16 Try doing that as a blunt that's unaugmented and not hyped on anything. |
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Oct 2 2003, 04:32 PM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
A daisy-eater? :) in regards to original post, don't forget the Sioux Wildcats, Renraku Red Samurai, Tir Paladins... I guess the artist formerly known as Russia still has the Spetznaz... |
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Oct 2 2003, 04:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 26-February 02 From: harrisburg metroplex, pa Member No.: 623 |
you should check corporate shadowfiles or corporate download for corporate armies/etc.
ares and fuchi(RIP) had like a battalion or something. |
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 Oct 2 2003, 09:23 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 26-February 02 From: In the shadows of the SK Arcology Essen, ADL Member No.: 1,934 |
Stats for Renraku Samurai are in "First Run" and Tir Ghosts are in "Corporate Punishment".
If' that what you mean with "compile". :beret: [edit] 2nd Edition Stats are in the "Aztlan Sourcebook". |
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Oct 2 2003, 09:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 29-November 02 Member No.: 3,660 |
Japan= Imperial Marines.
Australia = ASU I think. I know they mention German in the source book , but I can't remeber it off the top of my head . |
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Oct 2 2003, 10:50 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Tiran. What do you call one from the UCAS? The CAS would fight hard for the American title internationally, IMO, and would likely get it as all the Canadians would fuss to be called such. Inside the UCAS you would perhaps refer to one's self as Canadian or American, but internationally I've thought that UCASan (u-CAUSE-n) or Unionist might work. Is there canon? MVD for Russia (T:SH) Ares Firewatch Edited per CD2.0 This post has been edited by Kanada Ten: Oct 3 2003, 04:48 AM |
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Oct 2 2003, 11:02 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062 |
Cross has the (iirc) Archangels. |
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Oct 3 2003, 12:24 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Been mentions of the British Army, Royal Air Force and Royal Navy in the past. Also the obligatory SAS mention for the special forces. :)
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Oct 3 2003, 03:26 AM
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UCASer. The ones from the lower 24 call themselves Americans. MVD. Firewatch is part of Knight Errant. Just nitpicking.
Seraphim.
Actually, a shadow comment in Target: Matrix was by a former SAS man named World War Terminus. WWT is a motherf-ing badass. There used to be a Shadowrun Military Site. I assume somewhere someone still has something from it. This post has been edited by Crimsondude 2.0: May 7 2004, 08:00 PM |
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Oct 3 2003, 03:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 18-August 03 From: North VA Member No.: 5,519 |
Special forces are scary. Aren't the Wildcats reputed to be just about the best of the best?
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Oct 3 2003, 04:54 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
http://www.geocities.com/flanker562/
Is that the Military site you were referring to Crimsondude? It seems pretty comprehensive on an initial glance. |
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Oct 3 2003, 02:29 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Portland Member No.: 5,498 |
Over half of the SR Military Site's original content (including nearly everything I wrote) is now gone. The site isn't really maintained anymore, either.
BTW, the Paladins of Tir Tairngire are not military. There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding the Paladins, so allow me to clear some of that up. The term "Paladin" actually refers to two completely separate and distinct groups of people. The first, and most common, are the boys and girls annointed by Ehran the Scribe and other Tir nobles. These Paladins are just a bunch of kids running around playing at being badasses, and trying to win favor with the nobles by doing a lot of their dirty work for them. It is inglorious work, and they spend a lot of their time running stupid errands and pretending to be something they're not. The second group of Paladins really are badasses. There are only five of these guys, all of them physical adepts. They are Lugh Surehand's personal bodyguards and assassins, and they are uber. Although neither of these groups are technically a part of the Tir Tairngire Peace Force, the latter are probably all former Ghosts. Finally, you might want to include the Salish-Shidhe Rangers. While not technically a special forces unit, they could probably be considered to be special operations capable. |
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Oct 3 2003, 09:29 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 25-April 03 Member No.: 4,510 |
Don't forget the Green Serpent Guard (GSG) of the Nagato Corporation. They are all elven physads, with a mage or two thrown in for variety.
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| Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Oct 3 2003, 10:24 PM
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Yes.
Yes, it sucks that it's a shell of its former self. |
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Oct 3 2003, 10:38 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Pueblo Security Forces - pg 24 of T:WL
* Best air force next to Aztlan and UCAS - SoNA Russia *MVD's Vnutrennie Voiska (Interior Army) *Red Army (seriously, capatalized in T:SH) *UGB (Border Guards) *Pacific Fleet (Naval Infantry Force) Japan *Imperial Japanese Navy *Imperial Japanese Marines MCT has jet fighters in YotC UCAS, CAS, Great Britian also all have Marines Korea *Eastern Tiger Corp. |
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| Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Oct 3 2003, 10:57 PM
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Aztechnology has a Aircraft Carrier (Tezcatlipoca) in the original Seattle SB. So did, MCT (Izagami). Seattle (Everett Naval Yards) is the home port of the USS Koontz carrier battle group.
Cyberpirates! has stats for the CAS Defiant-class corvette, and (for some strange reason) Imperial Japanese Aircraft Carriers (and the names of all 10), and the UCAS's New Hampshire-class SSNs (and reference to older classes like Seawolf II). Aztlan has a pretty good description of the corporate military forces circa 2047 (Operation: Reciprocity) including a great deal of late 20th/ early 21st century military aircraft and fighter(/bomber?) drones. Yama's navy was mentioned in there, too. Missions's SpecFor mission mentioned the UCAS Rangers, and the PCs were Special Forces. The SRC also describes a 1st SFOD-Delta team (although it's actually the organization of a Special Forces "A-Team"). Bug City described the UCAS Wolverine-class light aircraft carrier that was parked off the city in Lake Michigan. They also described the Illinois National Guard and had stats for UCAS Army personnel. The best stats to use for Army soldiers now are in RA:S (or is it Brainscan. I can't remember). Threats mentioned a UCAS WMD-hunting unit called the Special Assets Division. The novel (just to be completely thorough, and this in no way actually lends credence to said novel) Just Compensation features the UCAS Special Resources Division, Fort Schwartzkopf, Army Thaumaturgical Corps, CAS Marine Corps Ferrets (Force Recon), and the 3rd Infantry Division from Ft. Myers, UCAS tanks, and miscellaneous other things. POAD: DS also refers to the Army Thaumaturgical Corps. |
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Oct 3 2003, 11:08 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 283 Joined: 30-September 03 From: Kenmore, NY, USA Member No.: 5,663 |
Nagato Corporation, Green Serpent Guard....
And where were these drekkers mentioned in? 2:52:16 "And no for the last time I was awakened after the event, the emotions caused the rift"-Rohestial Laendros Ehraun |
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Oct 3 2003, 11:42 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 26-February 02 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 195 |
In the novel House of the Sun Dirk Montgommery does refer to his nationality as "UCASan". |
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Oct 4 2003, 01:34 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,576 |
<sigh> Reading over this, I noticed that all of the UCAS military is American. What ever happened to the Canadian units and groupings that have a rich and distinguished history? Sure, we're not that militant of a nation, but we do have a fairly separate military culture (like most of our troops are lifers, not youthful short timers).
Sorry to get off topic. But if the UCAS military is to be fleshed out, it would be really cool if it wasn't done just by Americans, with only the American viewpoint. I think people forget the C in UCAS half the time. |
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Oct 4 2003, 01:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 283 Joined: 30-September 03 From: Kenmore, NY, USA Member No.: 5,663 |
You are obsolutely correct. I think WE should gripe about this for a little while and see if a few FanPro authorities might pick up and add them to a source book or two.
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Oct 4 2003, 02:00 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Well... It is submission driven.
With the Flashpoint: Pacific Northwest book coming up sometime, perhaps a list of Canadian forces and speculation to their dissemination (which would go mercenary, American, Qubecian, or stood alone in the UCAS). Since the CAS got much of the Naval forces, perhaps the Canadian Fleet structure is the dominate? |
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Oct 4 2003, 03:26 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
Well, there is still confusion here. According to SoNA page 150, first there are more than just two groups of Paladins. There are even independent Paladin. It's a social title. Then the Spirit Warriors/Meraerth ke'Tolo, nicknamed "Ghosts", the Special Force units of the Peace Force's military division, are 'paladins' because they all swore loyalty to the head of state, Surehand (basically, any oath makes a paladin). There are two groups inside those ghosts. The Black Banner/Bratach Falan (200 soldiers, 80% awakened) are 'standard' special forces with military missions. The White Banner/Bratach Gheal (<20 soldiers) are the High Prince bodyguards,wearing with armors and swords. And some of the White Banner, called "Black Daggers" are detached on special duties, assassinations and similar stuff. But all of those are paladins and members of the Peace Force.
*look at the map* And which naval bases did Canada bring ? :D The topic of the US Navy split is a bit blurred. According to the map, the CAS get Norfolk but according to SoNA, they 'only' have two 50,000-tons air carriers based in Charleston and Mobile (back in NAGNA in 2054, there was only one carrier, the Atlanta). Has the secession involved the demilitarization of Norfolk ? Still according to SoNA, the CAS Navy is supposed to be mostly a "brown-water navy" with two air carriers and the strongest submarine force in the world... Maybe that just mean the CAS Navy has the big guns to do more but limits his policy to the control of brown-water (ie the Gulf of Mexico/Aztlan). While I'm here the OB for the rest of the CAs Armed Forces (SoNA page 67) gives 6 active Army divisions, 2 Marine expeditionary forces and 16 air combat squadrons, making the largest force in North America (and the Texas National Guard must be a nice and quet force too). Concerning corporate troops, Corporate Shadowfiles was saying Aztechnology had no military forces, borrowing even its Desert War team to the Aztlan government. In Corporate Download, the Aztechnology Corporate Security numbers 140,000, in theory mostly for security, not military operations. But Year of the Comet mentions ACS troops fighting in Yucatan. For another number, CD says there are 400, a battalion of Jaguar Guards. About Ares, YotC speaks of 2,500 Ares troops deployed in California, including a Signals Intelligence & Recon Battalion of 500 mens, plus two armor and two mechanized battalions. It is described as "very large for a corporate military presence" and made of Knight Errant "security personel" equipped with stuff from Ares Arms armories. According to the Shadowfiles, Ares Arms controls Ares military capacities, while YotC refers to the "Knight Errant Signals Intelligence and Recon Battalion" mentionned above. The Download limlits KE military operations available to customers to special operations, infiltrations, counter-insurgency and warfare instruction. BTW I have seen a reference somewhere simply to the "Canadian-American" (makes sense when you think about it, no ?. |
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Oct 4 2003, 04:02 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Portland Member No.: 5,498 |
Sigh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have Shadows of North America. Hell, I've never even seen a copy of it. But I know what it says about the Tir. Or at least I can guess. So, since I'm the guy who wrote that stuff originally, I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit. I take my information from the original TT sourcebook, add a little common sense, and stir. Although it might be technically accurate to call the Ghosts "paladins", they are not Paladins in the originally intended meaning of the word, per the TT sourcebook. And, since it appears that whomever wrote this (I'm guessing it was Tzeentch) obviously borrowed a lot of their material from me, I have no problem calling it into question. |
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Oct 6 2003, 10:55 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Kami No Bushi (The Spirit Company) - Shiawise Special Forces Black Omega (Mages), Black Alpha (Awakened), Black Nova (Shamans), Schroedinger's Cats (Deckers) - Novatech black ops Yamatetsu Naval Technologies (no military per se, but they will/do have SEAL type unit).
Sure, for text documents and official information, but really? Do you see some midwest hick saying, "I'm a Canadian-American?" Camerican, UCASer (you' - cause - err), UCASan, something short and bastardized. |
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Oct 7 2003, 03:39 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
Sure, I can see it for people of a 'younger' generation. I think the older folks who were around for it all will probalby stick to the old names, but as younger people come up and get indoctrinated with the 'textbook' names as they go through school they'll adopt them into common usage regardless of them being from the sprawl or some hick in the midwest. |
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