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 Jan 3 2006, 10:08 PM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996  |
OK, I apologize now if this has already been run to death, but I missed it if it was.
SURGE as described in Year of the Comet, could it also be caused by a sufficiently high background count? I don't think there is any Canon on this so I'm curious what people have done in their games? |
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Jan 3 2006, 10:13 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Sure, why the hell not? If it furthers the story, go for it.
Funky magic or strange goings-on in astral space trigger latent meta-genes and wackiness ensues. I like it! Many a story has been based on far flimsier justification than this, my friend. I can't think of any reason why this sort of thing would be inconsistent with the established canon of SR's metagenes or magic/physics. |
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Jan 3 2006, 10:18 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
well, put it this way--it's never happened before.
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Jan 3 2006, 10:21 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Sure it has. Spike babies could be considered early SURGE. Not to mention the triggered SURGE cases in the Ganges.
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Jan 3 2006, 10:26 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
Yeah, read Shadows of Asia, regarding the Ganges River in India, if you're wondering what Ancient is talking about. |
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Jan 3 2006, 10:33 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Wouldn't Goblinization be the precursor to SURGE, since elves and dwarves don't manifest changes in their genetic expression after birth like trogs and changelings did (do)?
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Jan 3 2006, 10:44 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Yes, Goblinization could also be considered a SURGE phenomenon. The Spike Baby factor is just pointing out that metagenetic changes can be triggered by power sites or local mana surges.
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Jan 3 2006, 10:50 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
That was actually part of where I got the idea, though I was thinking more effectually along the lines of the YOTC random effects. For my game a Rating 5 or more power site would be required. If it is strongly aspected then certain manifestations may be more appropriate than others. Basically I want to have that extra creepy factor out there for players to worry about. I also was probably only going to check once per character in the character lifespan, but I might do it everytime a char bumps in to a realy high count (after all who knows what it takes to set off a metagene it may be more than just ambient mana level) |
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Jan 3 2006, 11:00 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
or it could be another phenomenon entirely. the forces that cause both SURGE and spike babies are unknown, so it'd be hard to prove that the same force is behind both. |
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Jan 3 2006, 11:23 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Of course.
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Jan 3 2006, 11:33 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
OOOH... Right. Duh.
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Jan 4 2006, 01:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
I could'nt find a copy of Shadows of Asia. it seems like all of hamilton is sold out.
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Jan 4 2006, 07:05 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,219 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lofwyr's stomach. Member No.: 1,320 |
Then there are metavariants to throw into that mix. Though I think it cleans things up nicely if we call metavarients to be early cases of localized SURGE and be done with it.
BTW, when SURGE first appeared in shadowrun, was anyone else drinking the coca-cola product of the same name? |
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Jan 4 2006, 07:15 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Maybe not, but I'd bet $20 the developers responsible were drinking something at the time. |
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Jan 4 2006, 11:45 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
Absinth maybe |
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Jan 5 2006, 01:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 19-January 04 Member No.: 5,992 |
Heeeey, I remember those ads.
A can of SURGE sits atop a couch in a junkyard at high noon. There is a crowd of very thirsty looking teenagers at the bottom of a massive pile of surprisingly clean furniture. It is silent. And from nowhere... "Suuuuuuuuuurge!" And then they go at it like it's the damn Agro Crag from Nickelodeon Guts. As for SURGE the thing, I always thought it was caused by living too close to the power lines. Maybe something in the water. Possibly a bad batch of Nerps. Inbreeding? Ninjas. Yeah. That's it. Ninjas. |
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Jan 5 2006, 03:05 PM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
Inbreeding ninjas.
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