Dead Tree vs PDF, what do you prefere |
Dead Tree vs PDF, what do you prefere |
Guest_MK Ultra_* |
Jan 5 2006, 07:12 PM
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So, as stated above, what do you prefere?
I tend to like dead tree more for the firt reading an between sessions references, but PDF is great for not having to haul 100lbs of paper to every gaming lokation. So I only take thous hard copys to the game session, which I intend to use most. Paper Pros faster reference the new book smell more comfortable to read, if you´r not a PDA fan PDF Pros does not get dirty, torn, eventualy falls apart and decays very lightwaight So, I´d vote for both, but conserning money, I more often end up only with the dead tree.. |
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Jan 5 2006, 07:24 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
I'm a fan of both as well. Additionally the ability to print select pages of a PDF and put parts of multiple books in a binder in any order you want can be very helpful. But there is just something about having a bookshelf full of SR Books that's very satisfying.
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Jan 5 2006, 07:29 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,219 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lofwyr's stomach. Member No.: 1,320 |
PDF all the way. The new book is in that eye-straining Green, and smells funny, like they used weird ink. It is full of errors that were fixed on the PDF. When updates come out I can re-download the updated PDF for free. I can search it for specific phrases. For faster reference, I printed it out, 3 hole punched it and put it in a binder. I then typed out my house rules and inserted those in the binder right next to the rules they modified. When I started my campaign I gave each player a copy of the book with my house rules, so no one can say "But I don't have the rulebook!" PDF, baby.
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Jan 5 2006, 07:35 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 19-December 05 Member No.: 8,080 |
Both have their uses. For quick rules referencing, nothing beats a PDF. For extended viewing I need a hard copy because I can't stand reading a computer screen for more than a few minutes straight.
Also, since I lack a laptop, pdf version are non-portable for me :(:(. |
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Jan 5 2006, 07:35 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
Nothing beats the *smack* of a good hardcover upside the head of an unruly player. A PDF in a binder just isn't the same.
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Jan 5 2006, 07:39 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,219 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lofwyr's stomach. Member No.: 1,320 |
you haven't hit your players with a laptop yet.
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Jan 5 2006, 08:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
i orefer to use the good old fashion book, i can flip through it faster than clicking on my mouse looking for the right page.
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Jan 5 2006, 11:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 16-January 05 Member No.: 6,984 |
PDF, it is less than half the price of the actual books when they turn up over here, and is released much much earlier.
Plus means I can read them in lectures. |
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Guest_MK Ultra_* |
Jan 5 2006, 11:58 PM
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So you can have a leptop or PDA in lectures but no actual book? What are you studying :)
In my corner of the world pdf or hardcopy is the same price, mostly. Thought it would be this way everywere. |
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Jan 6 2006, 01:07 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 16-January 05 Member No.: 6,984 |
Computer Science, the books I see over here tend to be at least $70 AUD =(
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Guest_MK Ultra_* |
Jan 6 2006, 01:16 AM
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Wow, thats harsh! No way to order them anywere else? But Your lucky if pdf is more practical to You anyway. Guess much of these preferences are simply based of what You´r used to.
BTW: Adam I´m sorry to divert this threat off-topic :talker: |
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Jan 6 2006, 01:35 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 26-February 02 From: BC, Canada Member No.: 97 |
I voted for the dead tree, though my vote would change to both had I a laptop.
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Jan 6 2006, 01:50 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Not off topic at all! Regional costs due to importing/shipping are certainly a factor that makes PDFs even more affordable than print books. |
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Jan 6 2006, 01:52 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 30-December 05 Member No.: 8,114 |
MilSims has SR4 for AU$55 plus postage, that's the cheapest I have seen it for in Australia. Thats why I buy my stuff from Amazon. Even after paying for postage it comes out significantly cheaper than what I can get locally. The money I save goes towards the PDF which I can get my hands on immediately while I wait for the book. |
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Guest_MK Ultra_* |
Jan 6 2006, 01:58 AM
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Ah, I meant the question about Rannekos studies, but never mind, was just blubber anyway :talker:
To add somthing to this otherwise pointless post: One field in which pdf´s definitly rock are out of print products. These can somtimes be released in pdf, when reprinting them dosn´t make much sense economically. Speaking of it, thanks to You guys for not trashing all the old stuff to raise sails for the new edition, like some companies tend to do these days! |
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Jan 6 2006, 02:10 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 11-December 05 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Member No.: 8,061 |
I should say "Dead Tree", since its my job to sell equipment to turn dead trees into paper, but...
The PDF is so convenient. Easy to search and when I'm on the road I don't need to bring the book with me if I want to work on my campaign. Obviously its on my laptop, which I use when GMing. I guess this is why so many of my customers are shutting down. |
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Jan 6 2006, 03:18 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Yeah, hittting them upside the head with the laptop is pretty rough on the hard drive & can get expensive after a while. |
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Guest_MK Ultra_* |
Jan 6 2006, 03:25 AM
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Well, expirienced GM´s would have some long, hard, wooden or metal object besid them during any session, to simulate woundpenalties :S and to use against players degressing ot topic :dead: anyway, would they not? :twirl:
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Jan 6 2006, 11:24 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
I prefer hardcopies, as i can read them on the couch, in bed, where ever i want.
Printing a PDF and having it bound is no real option, the costs would be close to a "real" hardcover (unless you're able to print the pages at 0 costs in your company). |
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Jan 6 2006, 03:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 944 Joined: 19-February 03 Member No.: 4,128 |
I like both, when I can afford both. If only one, I would save a little longer for the paper version.
I run a SR game ported into another system, which means I carry core books for TWO systems to my game sessions. Carrying PDFs for the splatbooks I won't constantly have my nose in means less spinal misalignment on my part. For research and prep at home, I like the paper version. Perhaps when a full page e-book reader gets a lot cheaper I might change my mind. |
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Guest_MK Ultra_* |
Jan 6 2006, 05:02 PM
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wow, hardcopy just outmatched pdf+paper, didn´t look like this in the beginning.
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Jan 6 2006, 05:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 248 |
I try to get both. Since i can't read my books at work, i can smuggle in my pdfs. :P
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Jan 7 2006, 07:18 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
PDFs are good, but I also prefer to have hardcopy in my hands. I vote both, as long as both remain freely accessible.
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Jan 7 2006, 11:56 AM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
Them trees want to be paper, so I need to buy a hardcopy. But the eBook never gets dirty, always flipps open on the right page, gets updated...
Remembering the lack of a german lector, I might even settle for english pdf only (won´t hold my breath for a german one). My groups book count is four regular and two limited hardcopies, no pdf. |
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Jan 7 2006, 11:58 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
nah, with a dead tree, you can get the whole open-the-book-to-the-page-you-want because it's the one you look at all the time. I love that. :love:
Besides, the new PDF smell don't do much for me. :( |
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