 Dead Tree vs PDF, what do you prefere |
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  Jan 7 2006, 02:45 PM
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Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263  |
So far I've been very happy with the PDF, then I make my own hardcopy....which being "softcover" provides the satisfying *thump* without leaving the incriminating surface bruising marks. 8)
Anyway, what I want to know is when is the revised PDF with the Errata 1.3 included coming out? Battletech will send an email when it comes around, right? Or did an email already get sent and my spam filter ate it? |
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Jan 7 2006, 03:52 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 10-September 05 Member No.: 7,726 |
Shadowrun 4th was the first and last PDF gaming supplement I'll ever buy. It's just so much easier to cross reference rules with an actual book.
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Jan 8 2006, 12:57 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 30-December 05 Member No.: 8,114 |
I haven't received an email either and was wondering the same thing. I have sent FanPro an email and will post back their response. |
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Jan 8 2006, 01:43 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
It's still a "soon." There are some issues that need to be coordinated with both DTRPG and BattleCorps regarding the update, and DTRPG, at least, does not work on weekends. :)
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Jan 8 2006, 02:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 109 Joined: 29-March 03 From: Tir Tarngiere Member No.: 4,353 |
I like core books and crunch-heavy books in a print form, it make it easier during play to just grab a book and find what I need. Same with published adventures.
Setting splats, on the other hand, I have no problems getting as a PDF, as for those it's a situation of "Read, grab ideas, and then write up adventure ideas." However, when it comes to out of print books, if there's a PDF avalable, and I can't find a print copy, I'll grab the PDF. The PDF's from a source with a reliable supply. OOP copies at my FLGS on the other hand, who know when another copy will be there. Though, if I do find a print copy of a book I've gotten at my FLGS, I'll get the print copy, if only to free up space on my hard drive. |
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Jan 8 2006, 04:05 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 30-July 04 From: Orebro, Sweden Member No.: 6,523 |
For heavy reading and rules studying etc I prefere the dead tree over the pdf any day, but at the gaming session, it doesnt matter, Pdf or dead tree is just as good then.
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 Jan 8 2006, 06:41 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 30-December 05 Member No.: 8,114 |
After Adam posted his reply I received a reply from Rob Boyle:
Cool, a big thanks to Adam and Rob for the info. |
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Jan 10 2006, 10:04 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
I just got the PDF, as a gift. I haven't been able to read more than three pages at a time. I don't own a lap top so I can't do my favorite thing which is take the book with me for a few weeks and just read it. And reread it. And reread it. And reread it.
So yeah I voted for HC. |
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Jan 10 2006, 11:10 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
That's my major complain about PDFs too.
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Jan 12 2006, 07:21 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 16-August 03 Member No.: 5,501 |
pros for dead tree version
Quiet, except for the fliping of the pages works without batteries or power pros for PDF its always new... you can print out just a few pages about X (like equipment rules...) |
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Jan 16 2006, 04:08 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 12-March 04 Member No.: 6,151 |
As the resident Bibliophile, I have to go with the "Dead Tree" option. Because I've noticed I can reference through material much faster with a book/hard copy than I can through most PDFs. Even the ones with bookmarks.
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Jan 16 2006, 04:31 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
The resident bibliophile? Have you met ancient History? Do you undertsand the words that is coming out of my mouth? English, speak it? 8)
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Jan 16 2006, 04:57 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 10-January 06 From: Orlando Member No.: 8,150 |
Definitely hardcopy. There's just something about holding that glistening hardcover book in your hands.
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Jan 16 2006, 05:40 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
I definitely prefer hardcopy, especially for rules. It's so much easier to find things, and flip back and forth. Plus, it's a lot easier on the eyes - I spend enough time in front of a computer screen as it is.
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 Feb 9 2006, 07:17 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 2-February 04 Member No.: 6,051 |
Assuming they ever release the bloody updates, PDF would be grand. Who actually remembers to reference the errata when looking up something in the dead tree format? |
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Feb 9 2006, 09:38 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Gauvain, we have released updates [one as recently as this week] to the SR4 ebook. If you're having problems getting it, please contact the vendor you bought your ebook from.
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Feb 10 2006, 02:53 AM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
I like having both. That way if I'm traveling, I can carry the HC main book(s), and PDFs for source stuff that I'm only going to use during run generation (mostly). For actual, constant use, I hate PDFs though.
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Feb 10 2006, 03:42 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,017 |
I like having both, since I use my laptop for all my reference, I can search the PDF faster and create bookmarks in Acrobat to things I need.
But having hardcopy is easier to have players look things up when they need. To be honest, I'll always buy both. |
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Feb 11 2006, 03:01 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 10-September 05 From: Montevideo, in the elusive shadows of Latin America Member No.: 7,727 |
So do I. Having both solves all problems. I had decided for the PDF because I wanted the book right away and ended up buying the HC as soon as it became available. It's much easier to browse and transport a dead-tree rulesbook. I use the PDF mostly at home.
It's the best of both worlds. You can take the digital version inconspicuously to your job with none the wiser, and you can always smack in the head your players with the HC. Ain`t hardcover grand? Plus, many of my players have this quirk, they ONLY roll their dice over the rulesbook, dice who fall on the table do not count. cheers, Max |
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Nov 28 2007, 02:12 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 12-March 04 Member No.: 6,151 |
Ancient? We're ancient history the moment you realize that Now is yesterday and tomorrow is today, chummer. Thing is, books don't crash and when the data disappears, you're gonna be grasping for hard-copies like a drowning sailor grabs for a life preserver. Don't come running to me when your hard-earned PDFs go to the happy hunting grounds and your account information disappeared from the server you got the file from. |
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Nov 28 2007, 02:27 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
I voted both. I GM with a laptop, and finding a source is faster with the "search" fucntion in a number of cases, although checking an entire chapter seems easier with HC still.
I got SR4 as PDF and Hardcover, but bought Augmentation and Street Magic as PDF only - less books to drag around if we play somewhere else, quickest delivery, and I hope there'll be easier updates/erratas. |
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Nov 28 2007, 07:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 13-August 07 Member No.: 12,615 |
I voted for dead tree. I've never used PDF, and probably never will. It's so...cold, impersonal, lifeless. Books, on the other hand, are living things, works of art in their own right, treasures to be cherished and protected. The day Shadowrun or any other RPG is released only in PDF form is the day I stop playing.
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Nov 28 2007, 07:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 20-February 04 From: in the matrix Member No.: 6,091 |
when reading a new book and "just browsing" I like the paper versions. when "looking up something quick" I prefer the PDFs. so I use both back and forth. I use the PDFs during the gaming sessions to find something in them quickly. just my 2 cents worth. dog PS> plus if I get both and that puts a few extra $$ in CGL's hands so they can have the $$ to make more products or make them faster (being a small company $$ is always a major factor on release schedules), I am happy to do it. |
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Nov 28 2007, 07:46 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 26-September 07 From: The Glitterman Member No.: 13,422 |
I do both. As a Laptop using game master I tend to keep a PDF version of all my source books on the laptop and give my hardcopies to players to use.
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Nov 28 2007, 07:47 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 18-September 06 Member No.: 9,421 |
And here I thought that bibliophile2.0 was the resident biblionphile around here. Did he move or something? Chris Oh, I voted both, I usually buy hardcover because I like the books, but make my own PDF files for reference while talking on the net. I don't have much desk space so it makes planning easier. |
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