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 Jan 6 2006, 08:03 AM
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Uncle Fisty  Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928  |
try SOTA 64 , and Magic in The Shadows Neko is awesome ;) |
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Jan 6 2006, 08:05 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Earth - Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund - Hannover Member No.: 7,624 |
I thought Mercury was following some special path, which he learned from Dunkelzahn, that is not available to player characters....
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Jan 6 2006, 08:15 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Path of the Power-Trip PC?
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Jan 6 2006, 08:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 175 Joined: 15-July 04 From: Imperial Japan Member No.: 6,483 |
Thought I thought Neko wasnt an adept at all, from what I understood from Never Trust an Elf.
... Ryan Mercury (Never read anything with him, gladly I guess) reminds me of why I cant read anymore Drizzt Do'Urden books .... That guy is just too good at his thing. |
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Jan 6 2006, 08:41 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
the last few Drizzt books were lacking anyways, so you didn't miss much.
I never got to the 2nd and 3rd 'secrets of power' books, so I didin't een know that Neko was in them :oops: silly me. I was commenting on the write up on SOTA 64 and how he was portayed off of that in our games. |
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Jan 6 2006, 08:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 7-December 05 Member No.: 8,054 |
The Path of the Power-Tripping PC?
Here I would have to say, if a player had a character like that, it would not be a cut and dried case of twink-o-licious power tripping, rather, the issue would be decided on the circumstances, the context and intent. If a player just out of the blue said-I want to make a character like R. "Q" M., when everyone else was playing normal Shadowrun characters, then it would not make since in the context of the game, and the player probably just wants to hijack the game for his own personal power trip. But if the situation were different, if say, the player's last character had mastered all of the Elven Magic Pathways, and s/he knew that her next character was going to be a Great Dragon that awakens late and is trying to play catch up with the other established Great Wyrms in the Sixth World-then a character like Quicksilver would make since as a fun transition character to help the player get ready for his next big serious character. So, as I am sure you can all see, it realy is just a matter of context and intent. |
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Jan 6 2006, 08:59 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
well for one, Dunk was not trying to catch up, he was one of the first few dragons to awaken, jsut a few months after Ryumyo.
Two, it was a joke (mostly) |
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Jan 6 2006, 09:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 7-December 05 Member No.: 8,054 |
If my post was misread, I am sorry. It was meant as a joke-I do not think that a character who has mastered all of the Elven Pathways of Magic is a suitable PC, nor do I think that a just awakened Great Dragon is a suitable PC, but I do think that a character like Quicksilver falls in the middle of that pack.
And I agree with your post, if there was a path that allowed a player to follow in Quicksilvers footsteps, then it would be best called the Path of Power-Tripping. |
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Jan 6 2006, 09:22 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
:D sorry, wasn't meaning to be testy. no prob
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Jan 6 2006, 09:59 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Different Neko. The one from the novels (he was in 3 of the first 4, IIRC, 2/3 of the initial trilogy, plus being a major player in NTAE) is mundane, though he's very easily the "stereotypical physad type guy," regardless (sneaking, throwing knives, a suppressed submachine gun, athletics, etc). To me, the fact he was that badass as a mundane (and a largely uncybered one, IIRC), makes him even cooler. "Neko" from Sota '64, as an Adept of the Silent Path/Invisible Way (as far as I'm concerned, two names for the same ideal), shouldn't really surprise anyone. I mean, Neko is Japanese for "cat," I believe -- so the fact that a ton of sneaky guys, in the still-occasionally-Jap-o-centric Shadowrun future, shouldn't come as any sort of shock. In much the same vein, I largely doubt Ghost-Who-Walks-Inside is the only "Ghost" any more, there are probably two dozen "Blackjack" street names strutting around, etc, etc. That's one of the (many) downsides to the GI Joe sounding street names; all the cool ones are taken, and have been for about 20 years (in game). |
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Jan 6 2006, 10:01 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
I thought the end part of "House of the Sun" wasn't even written by Findley because he died before the book was finished (though no co-author has ever been named)? |
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Jan 6 2006, 10:42 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Thanks for clearing that up Critias. i agree on the names it can be a bit of a pain. Our group has gotten a bit of a kick seeing character names we've had pop up in source books though.
We have tried getting away from the "GI Joe" names a bit though , and go towards something you wouldn't feel quite as akward saying in a normal conversation. Not that "50 cent" really flows though,;) but we're going for more street name, less super hero. It says something to me that the (IMO) coolest 'runner' I've seen in any of the books was just called by his regular name. |
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Jan 6 2006, 11:11 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
fastjack is his real name? whoah! where'd you find that out? |
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Jan 6 2006, 11:32 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Dirk hoser! :P
besides that, I don't recall any appearances by Jack in any of the books I've read. Although the short that AH did with him was awesome |
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Jan 6 2006, 11:48 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
he was in Into the Shadows.
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Jan 6 2006, 12:03 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
ah, well , see, never read that one. Hafta go pick up up now at my friendly local used book store.
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Jan 6 2006, 12:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
Ah another Ryan mercury thread.
God some needs to write up a short story on how he dies, cause the fans hate him. |
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Jan 6 2006, 12:28 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I am inspired !!
And, yeah, Fistandantilus. I keep telling myself that the SOTA:64 guy isn't good old Neko from the books (and, the street name being as common as it no-doubt is, it's easy to believe). It'd really suck if it was him, and they turned him into an Adept, etc, etc. It's weird, but it would kind of take away from the character, for him to get that sort of thing from powers instead of just being that badass innately. |
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Jan 6 2006, 12:43 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
yeah, that makes sense. I'll have to pick up that book too I guess. We've been putting out more mundane, cybered down characters lately too. It's great ot be able to play them and have them survive, and even better to watch them thrive, beuase you know that it's mostly coming from smarts, not dice and tweeking rules.
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Jan 6 2006, 12:57 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
In SR3, since there's no skill cap, they can keep improving (albeit very slowly), to the point they've just got ridiculous dice to throw, etc, etc. And without foci or cyberware or decks or whatever to eat up all their cash, once they've got a few nice toys to get jobs done, every penny they earn can go into Lifestyles.
Bling bling! |
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Jan 6 2006, 02:52 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Oh, good idea!! Have him die in a car bomb or from eating too many fatty foods. |
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Jan 6 2006, 11:23 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
What's wrong with Nadja Daviar's brown nipples?
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Jan 6 2006, 11:34 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
That some tan brown, omnipotent and irritating porn-star hunk is the one touching them when you read about them?
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Jan 7 2006, 08:14 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
Fastjack appeared in Night's Pawn, IIRC, when he gets hired by the retired street sam to provide Matrix overwatch while said street sam breaks into the Renraku Arcology (long before Deus did his funky stuff), in order to talk to Samantha Villiers at a social function. |
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Jan 7 2006, 08:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 17-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,912 |
he died in the final stages of proof reading. there's a point near the end of the book, which i think was intentional left uncorrected, where the ubiquitous frag is swapped for "fuck". i think that was where findley was when he passed.
true, but the last sellswords book (about artemis entreri and jarlaxle) was freakin' great. very refreshing in many ways, i must say. |
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