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post Jan 7 2006, 02:09 PM
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Why did Renraku build one in the first place?...

Largely, just because they could. The thing doesn't really make a whole lot of sense, economically. So a flashy, show-off project is the most likely answer.

Plus, Arcologies are just so neat and cyberpunk-y.

Renraku does seem to be a very image conscious corp. They use a splashy special forces unit (see the Red Samurai Thread), they build big Arcologies, own a lot of media and make a lot of noise about all their public benefits projects. They seem to go to great lengths to project a kind of benevolent patriarchical motive and a flashy wow factor image. In actual fact they seem to be corrupt, borderline incompetant, ruthless, rife with infighting, and willing to take huge and sometimes not well thought out risks.

CEO Inazo Aneki had a deep interest in sociology and philosophy. He saw the Arc as his great community experiment, a modern utopia.



The poor fool.
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post Jan 7 2006, 03:06 PM
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Well, there was nothing wrong with the basic premise of the Arc. There are other Arcologies all over the SR world, and they're just fine -- this one was just fine, too, 'till the AI slipped it's leash.
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post Jan 7 2006, 03:21 PM
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Why did Renraku build one in the first place? Also, here's a page for proposed arcologies, in Tokyo, no less.

The largest one is supposed to be larger than Mt. Fuji, in case it ever gets the 2 gajillion dollars necessary to build it. Is that bigger or smaller than the SCIRE?

Thats goinmg to be one impressive engineering feat.
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post Jan 7 2006, 04:38 PM
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It just doesn't seem... cost effective. Even with a real estate bubble bigger than the X-Seed 4000. And does it basically mean nature is your bitch, when your largest artificial national symbol is larger than your natural one, which is a fucking mountain?
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post Jan 7 2006, 05:34 PM
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In my mind, the most likely source of an abandoned arcology would be one that wasn't completed. Perhaps the corp building it ran into a funding crunch, or went bankrupt or there was an earthquake from an unknown fault line that damaged the arc beyond repair during construction. And if you really wanna have fun that earthquake could have been triggered by the awakening of another as-yet-unknown great dragon who has decided to make the arc his new home.

The possibilities for an incomplete and abandoned arcology are endless.
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post Jan 7 2006, 10:07 PM
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In my mind, the most likely source of an abandoned arcology would be one that wasn't completed. Perhaps the corp building it ran into a funding crunch, or went bankrupt or there was an earthquake from an unknown fault line that damaged the arc beyond repair during construction. And if you really wanna have fun that earthquake could have been triggered by the awakening of another as-yet-unknown great dragon who has decided to make the arc his new home.

The possibilities for an incomplete and abandoned arcology are endless.

now make that a feathered serpent, and have aztech send the players to clean out any squatters so they can retake the place and... Ooooh. Ouch. Rock and a hard place.
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post Jan 8 2006, 08:48 AM
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Frank--I believe the lost arcology you're referring to was Thor Shotted by Ares...I'm not sure how much would be left of that one.

Uh, why did Ares Thor-shot an arcology?
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post Jan 8 2006, 08:51 AM
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Prometheus torqued them off. It's in Shockwaves. Don't recall the exct details, or have the book though.

BTW< the arcology in Australia isn't abandoned. just looked it up. It's the World Square in Sydney, Tanamyre built it into an arcology, and leases out space. The 10,000 car below ground parking garage was blocked off, and that became the (literal) underground bazaar.
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post Jan 8 2006, 01:33 PM
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Proteus, not Prometheus.
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post Jan 8 2006, 01:57 PM
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Frank--I believe the lost arcology you're referring to was Thor Shotted by Ares...I'm not sure how much would be left of that one. 

Uh, why did Ares Thor-shot an arcology?

They helped another corp against Proteus and things got nasty pretty fast. Don't know how much to say without hijacking this thread and need for spoilers. Just look fpr "Shockwaves" or "Proteus" in this forums.
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post Jan 8 2006, 01:59 PM
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Well, there was nothing wrong with the basic premise of the Arc. There are other Arcologies all over the SR world, and they're just fine -- this one was just fine, too, 'till the AI slipped it's leash.

Iirc Renraku's Arc in Seattle had been the only one where a AI/ SK had control of the environment controls etc.
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post Jan 8 2006, 09:10 PM
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Also, the Renraku arcology wasn't ever abandoned. After Deus left and the UCAS military and Renraku Red Samurai were able to get inside again, they swept through the massive structure clearing out Deus' hostile drones and brainwashed human troops and rescuing survivors. While it's rumored that areas of the Arc are still sealed off because they haven't been sufficiently cleared and aren't safe (and are thus good sites for creepy runs?), the majority of the Arc is apparently open for business again and operating.

The damn thing took so much time and money to build that I doubt it would ever be abandoned... so long as it's not destroyed or occupied by hostiles, they'll want to use it.

But other arcologies over the world might be abandoned due to some factor that made both keeping it up and dissassembling it for parts impossible. Those Australian mana storms sound pretty good....
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post Jan 8 2006, 09:36 PM
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I... I thought that Renraku was unable to pay the UCAS government for their services and get the Arc back...
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post Jan 8 2006, 09:47 PM
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Iirc Renraku's Arc in Seattle had been the only one where a AI/ SK had control of the environment controls etc.

Didn't Renraku license some of their hardware and software for arcology operation to the Stratus Arcology in Kuala Lumpur? Like the IntEleGence[tm] expert system that handles the elevators for example?
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post Jan 9 2006, 08:31 PM
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Narrator: Well, No, the arc was never abandoned as of 2065 (Though it wasn't really up and running again). I always figured that after what happened, there, no one would really want to move back in, and would do so under protest. and then When the second matrix crash hit, people in the arc would think it was the shutdown all over again, and freak. There would be riots, people would die, and the places reputation as haunted would be be cemented. No one would want to live there. Not to mention the background count that place has got to have. Sure, anyone who owns a peice of the arc owuld dearly love to see it operate again, but simply put, no one wants to live there. It would be like moving into a mansion in the middle of a nazi concentration camp built on an indian burial ground where people were sacrificed, and the previous owner had ritually murdered his family and commited suicide, and the architect was that zoroastrian guy from ghostbusters.
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post Jan 9 2006, 08:40 PM
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Actually, with a internal matrix still in pieces while the crash hit, there would hardly be more panic than outside - in fact, even less.

And after the crash, rebuilding the digital infrastructure is only just as costly as everywhere else.
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post Jan 9 2006, 11:17 PM
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I suppose, tough for some reason I always figured that the Arc's matrix space would have a particuarly tough time with a dissonance-based virus.
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What matrix space? ;)

Every section conquered would most likely have all connections shut down physically - then slowly rebuild.
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post Jan 9 2006, 11:33 PM
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