 Question to all nitpicky players, How high are taxes in Seattle? |
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 Oct 3 2003, 06:55 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 4-June 03 Member No.: 4,685  |
One player wanted to legalise part of his shadow income, so he can buy legally things which cost more than 1000 nyens.
How high are taxes in Seattle? Logically he must pay taxes from income, so if anyone knows please post it here. My knowledge is lacking in this field. |
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Oct 3 2003, 12:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 262 Joined: 26-February 02 From: A wreched hive of scum and villany. Member No.: 1,479 |
the way i used to work it is that the government skims 1% of every nuyen placed onto a legal sin.
That way they get to skim that cred OVER and OVER and OVER again. yes there are ways you can claim it back at the end of the year, but shadowrunners arent big fans or reciepts. |
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Oct 3 2003, 01:27 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
Taxes are covered in lifestyles. Not officially, but logically they are.
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Oct 3 2003, 02:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 4-June 03 Member No.: 4,685 |
Yeah, but if player wants to convert his shadow money into normal, he must pay some price :)
Ahh damn, I'll use 10% tax for such a conversion. |
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Oct 3 2003, 02:29 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Or pay a commission to a money-launderer. Less chance of you getting audited.
Unless I missed a section in the social book, if you have a fake SIN, a character should be able to make legal purchases. Granted, the higher you go the more likely your SIN will need to pass inspection... -Siege |
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Oct 3 2003, 05:19 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
Ah, you're talking about money laudering. I tried to come up with some rules a while back, but it's just too complicated and I don't know enough about this stuff. I recommand you do as was suggested and have the player simply pay an NPC to wash his money and take care of everything, and take away X% of the cash as various fees. Make it a black box system. And it's not taxes he's paying, cause you can't just go to the governement and say "here's 100k, i'll pay taxes if you promise not to ask where it came from, ok?". PAying taxes is just one part of the laundering process. Here's a link to some work the fine folks of Twilightrun came up with. Should be helpfull. |
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Oct 3 2003, 07:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 4-June 03 Member No.: 4,685 |
Mucho thanks.
Added that page to my favorites. No more questions tonight :) |
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Oct 3 2003, 08:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Albany, OR Member No.: 5,643 |
Traks, I live in Seattle. There is no local tax, nor is there a state tax; just federal taxes. There are property taxes, sales taxes and such.
The sales tax depends on the county and area within the county It is approx 8.5-8.9% in what would be the Everett, Snohomish districts. 8.2-8.8% in the Tacoma, Ft. Lewis, Puyallup districts. 8.4-8.8% in Downtown, Redmond, Bellevue, Renton and Auburn This may not have been what you are looking for, but I hope it helps. =) |
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Oct 3 2003, 10:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 254 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,768 |
Laundering money, at least in a few movies and Willian Gibson stories, is a big deal. The money has to go through hundreds of different hosts and ghost corps before it can be considered truly clean. This means you can really rip off your players by charging outrageous percentages for laudering their money.
Start at 30% and go up. The more they charge, the more reliable they are (so going through a Yakuza money-laudering operation might take away 60% of your cash). |
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Oct 3 2003, 11:00 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 7-September 03 From: Winnipeg, Canada Member No.: 5,594 |
Isn't certified cred suitably "laundered"? I mean, I thought it was no-strings-attached this-is-the-money-in-your-hand-with-no-history-to-it, rathermuch like physical cash minus serial numbers.
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Oct 3 2003, 11:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: 27-January 03 From: Kentucky, USA Member No.: 3,958 |
True, certified cred is like cash. However, the sticks are only good for a certain amount of money, and you're *going* to attract attention when you put your down-payment for the house in as a pile of certified sticks. ;)
Also, you can't just put it in to a bank account. Red flags would go up all over the place when Joe Nobody drops 100,000¥ into his bank account, when the balance has been 30¥ for the past year or more. Even if he puts it in using small increments, he has no W2 from any job to show where said cash came from... can you say 'audit' boys 'n girls? :D So, laundering is the best way, because it not only fakes legit sources for the money, it prevents flagging systems when lots of cash is suddenly made available to you. |
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Oct 3 2003, 11:49 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 7-September 03 From: Winnipeg, Canada Member No.: 5,594 |
I'm too used to thinking/playing SINless...I didn't even consider actual honest-to-god bank accounts. :P Or purchases NOT made through a Fixer.
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