Spell Defense, Who, What, and How many Options

[Grimtooth]

I have a sorcery adept in an SR3 game who has Sorcery(spellcasting) 5/7.

My questions are:

1. how many individuals can i cover? 5 or 7?
2. Can 1 of thise individuals be the car i'm riding in? I know the individuals have to be in LOS.

Thanks

[Aku]

on 1) The maximum would be 5, unless said character is also specialized in spell defense.

number 2, You can protect a vehicle with spell defense. See page 150 of SR3 for details.

[Grimtooth]

that was what i thought

Thanks for the clarification

[Aku]

Just remember, that if the caster can see theough the windows, he can use an AoE spell, and still turnt he occupants into chunky salsa

[Grimtooth]

tinted window in the back

but i would still be able to defend with defense dice anyone i can see.

[Mr.Platinum]

oh and heres a clasiic question since it will be most likley asked.


What about cyber eyes Jim?

Well the classic mag eyes will work but the digital one won't.


Accually I do have a serious question since i'm on topic of cyber.


Will ultra sound work?

I think it won't cause there is a structure in the way " for example a wall" but then using ultra sound is a line of sight though.

I'm confusing myself.

but do you folks agree or disagree

[Nyxll]

[hyzmarca]

Actually, electronic vision magnification won't work because it alters the image before sending it to the brain. Optical vision magnification will work. Electronic vision mag and ultrasound vision are the only vision enhancments that you can't cast through because, in both cases, the image is compiled or altered electronicly.

[Magus]

I thought it was errated(sp??) that any thing you spent essence on was considered yours so that Mana could be funneled through it. The limitation on Electronic vs Optical was for things outside of your own meat ie binos or Optical Cabling vs closed monitor TV

[Mr.Platinum]

i don't think so, but i knew the elctric would'nt work and now i know ultra sound won't work either, been part of this discussion a couple of times in the years i have been here, it even says in the core book that the elec mag will not work.

[PiXeL01]

In SR3 page 300 it says under Vision Magnification:

It comes in electronic and optical versions (The latter is necessary for magicians with cybereyes).

I looked in the Shadowrun FAQ and it doesnt say anything about it being changed, nor in the errata for the book.

[Mr.Platinum]

just as i thought.

[hyzmarca]

Cybereyes are considered natural for the purpose of spellcasting. The problem is that electronic vision magnification interupts line-of-sight. You aren't seeing the the target, you are seeing an electronic photograph of the target that has had its resolution lowered to make the target appear bigger.

[Nyxll]

[hyzmarca]

[Nyxll]

[hyzmarca]

That's my point about using similar tricks to produce optical magnification that doesn't give you retractible beer bottle eyes. Does a system justify the greater essence cost of optical mag? That is a question for another topic and another time.

[Crusher Bob]

I would assume that the optical mag eye system uses a lens of much greater clarity and flexibility than the meat one. The lens of your eyeball Mk 1 can flex slightly, to help you focus on different things, the optical system would flex the lens much more. Of course, you'd still be limited in what you could see by things like the apeture size of your pupil, which means that the eye system will always be inferior to much bigger things. (Unless you don't require your cyber eyes to look human, drilling out the whole eye socket to put in much bigger cyber eyes would allow you to craw a lot more stuff in.