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 Jan 14 2006, 04:18 PM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,219 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lofwyr's stomach. Member No.: 1,320  |
And I thinks THAT'S how we can make this work, Emo. The people paying for this bioware snatch and grabs are Human Nation. Human nation has a great deal of history in bioware research, mostly for involving attempts to "Fix" the metahuman problem. As a result of their research they've made several biogenetic breakthroughs, and have a great deal of financial interest built up in the feild. However, they eventually generate bad PR, so moving to a new area and setting up a secret delta clinic is right up their alley. The bounty on elf ears isn't really for research purposes, as has been shown, there are bettere ways to go about it. The bounty is so that they can get gullible people to do their dirty work of purging the populace of "Race Traitors and those who volunarily become less than human" (The idea that their research and marketing has Created these people never occurs to them. Or if it does, it makes them more certain of the need to destroy them, since they are "My mistake") Your runners may be such gullible people, or maybe they are smart enough to figure out that "hey, something isn't right here, why don't we just grab paydata?" and start looking into the matter. What will your runners do when they find out their favorite deltaware clinic is backed by Alamos 20k? That is a campaign right there. Onto the other one. All right, this bio-engineered guy what's his face? See, he shouldn't have any magic whatsoever. If ever there was a person more deviod of the spark required for magic, a vat grow person would be it. I think you shouldn't have any essence loss reduction on this fellow at all. I think he should lose essence for all the bio he's got grown in him as normal. I think it just shouldn't effect him at all. I'm not sure if there is enough Bio in the book right now to reduce your essence below 0, but if there is, give it all to him. He has ALL of it, and his essence is below 0. The result? he has no soul. But he was BORN that way, so it works. He will have the usual essence issues with healing (All that bioware complicates medical procedures) and he'd have all the interface with magic issues a low essence person might have. Maybe he has an astral hazing ability, or some other serious mojo drawback from having no soul. He would probably have No Aura, no astral presence at all. This would make effecting him with Mana spells impossible, he is essentially an inanimate object. Your very own BIO-zombie. |
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Jan 14 2006, 07:53 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Hmmm... But the elf-ears aren't real elf ears, they were just an example of cosmetic bioware. They're just cloned ears manipulated to become elf ear-ish. There are even cloned metahuman eyes that can see in the dark. The deltaware wants to learn to make that. And I'm referring to the deltaware clinic set up by Fuchi, on of the two that it had, that went independent in the Pueblo Corporate Council and services everyone with enough money. This can be found on page 33-34 in System Failure. It's independent, and wants to expand into a new market, and this seems the most efficient way of bypassing years of R&D without having the specs, which are much harder to get and much more valuable. They of course will pay much money for them.
As for the genewar soldier, he's born out of a normal zygote. He just hasn't been conscious until about 5-6 years ago. His basic genotype was heavily modified, and most of his implants are from stem cells from brother/sister embryos that were themselves modified for the task. This means that you could take a spinal tap and a blood sample and get two completely different genomes. So he still has essence and his body functions together, since even thought he genes are modified to fit different functions, they're still from his own flesh and blood, so to speak. |
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Jan 14 2006, 08:05 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
dude, no deltaware clinic needs to steal designs for something that is already on the market. and even if they did, it would be cheaper to just send someone in to get elf ears, cat's eyes, and whatever else they want, and reverse-engineer it from there. it would be completely insane for a freakin' delta clinic to engage in serial murder.
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Jan 14 2006, 08:07 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
... damnit. You're right. I'm keeping the Red Samurai, though. And maybe keeping the cosmetic bioware as an optional datasteal bounty that may or may not go away with time. The problem will be the very difficulty of reverse-engineering the stuff. I'll have the hospital have blood samples at security checkpoints; that would be an awesome challenge. And when I say cosmetic bioware, I only mean that it is used primarily for looks; it is not a measure of the invasiveness of the majority of the cutting-edge procedures the deltaware clinic's looking for. |
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Jan 14 2006, 08:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
getting parts to reverse engineer! just go to the Tomanous Mang!
Why is it i visulalize all Tamanous as mexican/latin gangesters? |
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Jan 14 2006, 08:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
and why is i have 3 spellings of Tamanous?
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Jan 14 2006, 09:08 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,219 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lofwyr's stomach. Member No.: 1,320 |
Oh, I know they aren't real elf ears. But don't you think a Humanis goon would hate Humans that got modified to look like elves as much or more than elves? The old fuchi clinic DID have ties to the black lodge, a human supremicist organization. And all I'm saying on your super-soilder Idea would be a lot less cheezy and a lot more cyberpunkish if it had some sort of serious drawback. Like having no soul. That's a pretty serious drawback, in a certain sense. The advantage for him is that since he was born with an essence below zero, it doesn't kill him. That's the advantage of having his implants be from his own flesh and blood. No matter what way you slice it, essence free bioware is pure munchiness. You are removing the key drawback and balancing factor from the implant technology. Whether the players or the GM have that capability, it is unbalanced. This is why I suggest the Bio-zombe thing. Make being a super-clone something you don't want to be. |
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Jan 14 2006, 11:53 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
But if he has no soul, how can he want freedom?
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Jan 15 2006, 04:49 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
Just because he has no sould doesn't mean he isn't sentient. It just means magic doesn't work all that well on him. ;)
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Jan 15 2006, 05:30 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,863 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I don't know, since the word "tamanous" is supposed to have native american origins. linky goodness. mind that after taste and an interesting legend |
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Jan 15 2006, 05:53 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
The second link is especially interesting, given that it deals with Crater Lake, which has had some bizarre magical activity (if memory serves), though I can't remember exactly how. |
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Jan 15 2006, 06:04 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,863 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I have a theroy on that one:
According to some of the SB's , there were some strange and gruesome murders that took place in that area up until '56 for a little over a year. Then they jsut stopped. At about the same time, the Tir military sealed off the lake. For a while, the area was a high magic area, then became a mana ebb some time around 63. Now 56 IIRC was when Aina used blood magic over Crater lake to destroy the horror Ysgrathe. He let himself be destroyed, because he wanted her to use heavy blood magic to do it, to make another mana spike in a high mana area. My theory is that there was a horror operation in the area until that blood magic went off. There's a locus in the lake there, and I think that spell activated it somehow. WHat I think is happening is that it's now draining the ambient magic in the area, like a massive battery charging up. That would explain why the horror left too, assuming there was one and it wasn't something completely unrelated. The lower mana wasn't enough to sustain it. I've also been wondering why the loci so far have all been found in lakes. There one in San Antonio area (The Dragon Heart Trilogy) was in a lake. I believe there's one in Lake Baykal, which, apparently according to some sourcebook , syas that it's directly opposie creater lake on the globe. And of course the one in Crater lake it's self. Interesting I think. Coincidence? who knows *cue mysterious music* |
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Jan 15 2006, 08:16 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
From what I can tell from Google Earth, directly opposite Lake Baikal is a random point in the South Pacific.
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Jan 15 2006, 10:40 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,863 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I'll see if I can find my source on that then. I'd thought I had seen it in SoA, but I guess that can be wrong of course.
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Jan 15 2006, 08:34 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
There's no way Lake Baikal is opposite Crater Lake; they're both in the Northern Hemisphere!
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Jan 15 2006, 08:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
I have to sit down and read this whole thread and see what unbeleivable idea Emo came up with.
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Jan 16 2006, 05:17 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
San Marcos, for the record. But you weren't too far away, geographically. |
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Jan 16 2006, 06:01 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Hey, he's learning, so be patient and friendly. :) |
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Jan 17 2006, 05:19 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
I've also got another idea for a campaign. My college is hosting a set of one-shot RPG campaigns, and I'm having one where the players don't know each other beforehand. They live in the same slum apartment block. It's run by a local gang, which, for the most part, lives in the basement, except for the leaders, who live higher up. It gets attacked at the beginning of the game by a rival gang. There's a lot of shooting, some of it hopefully by the runner team. It ends when a really nice car drives away and the gang leader tells his people to stop shooting, or they'll hit the car.
The resident leader notices that the runners, of all the people on his side shooting, either shot best or didn't run away. Which, of course, is a plus. He wants to hire them to recover the car; his older brother, a huge-ass troll, is the actual gang leader, and he's meeting with Yakuza to secure long term employment for his gang as hit men, "protection," and the like. He'll be back in a few days, and in a week is the big unofficial street race, which his gang would have won if it didn't have its car stolen. A Yakuza representative will be watching the race, and if his older brother finds the car stolen on his little brother's watch, facial mutilation is the best that the younger brother could hope for. He's willing to give the runner team his share of the next month's BTL profits in exchange for their help in the matter. It also helps that the runners can hold him to his promise by threatening to tell the older brother. Who, I might remind you, is a big-ass troll. When they bypass security and get the actual car, they find that the rival gang is run by a female free mantis spirit. She's VERY powerful. About force 9. One of the pre-made characters will actually have "piss off insect spirits" as a flaw and as a result will specialize in banishing them. Question: Would she be way too powerful for 400 BP characters? Would they be able to even hurt her? Also, I have a character idea. His "name" will be Agira Tetsumi. He's a former ninja who was kicked out of his clan, or at least convinced to leave, by jealous peers who cited his usage of pistols as evidence of his dishonor. He's a master of disguise and wears a different one every time he meets a Johnson. He maxed out his stealth and social skill groups and is adept at dual-wielding pistols and the katana. He's also an adept with two levels in improved reflexes, two in combat sense, and two in kinesics. He'll be the party's face and Solid Snake. He knows a Yakuza oyabun like a friend and gets his equipment from a resigned Red Samurai. His particular quirk will be that he doesn't feel much of anything. When asked about fear, he would say, "Not much of anything scares me. Or, for that matter, elicits an emotional response. That bothers me. Sometimes, at least, like when a puppy dies in front of my eyes or something." What do you think of him? |
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Jan 17 2006, 06:30 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Watch a lot of action flicks, don'tcha?
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Jan 17 2006, 07:00 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Where do you get that? |
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Jan 17 2006, 07:02 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
I think there is something like that said in Shadows of Asia, in the Russia section. It sounded geographically inaccurate to me though too. Crater Lake West 122-6.57 North 42-56.81 Lake Baikal (rough center) East 108-3.33 North 53-24.00 There doesn't appear too be much relation at all in fact. |
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Jan 17 2006, 07:03 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 24-October 05 Member No.: 7,887 |
400 BP characters don't usually live in slums. If you want to do a street campaign, you might want to consider lowering your starting BP, and what your gear your players will have access to.
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Jan 17 2006, 07:06 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
I suspect that Critias is referring to your ex-ninja, as the whole "I had to go rogue because I kicked too much ass" schtick is massively overdone. :) |
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Jan 17 2006, 07:10 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Oh... that makes sense... Well, his rivals won't be quite as good as he is, but the pretend-senile sensei is, like, omnipotent. The only reason that the rivals stopped short of trying to be sensei is because they're too self-serving and frightened to challenge him. And his contacts outside of the dojo could care less about his dishonour; he gets the job done. The whole "kicked out of the dojo" thing was an excuse for him to go shadowrunning. And are 400 BP characters powerful enough to take on free mantids?
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