My Assistant
Site Message
(Message will auto close in 2 seconds)
  |
 Emo Samurai's dedicated campaign idea page. |
 Jan 17 2006, 07:15 PM
Post
#51
|
|||
|
Genuine Artificial Intelligence  Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715  |
That depends entirely on how smart your players play. I would say yes, but that's for my group taking on mantids in one of my campaigns. Plus, it depends heavily on the circumstances of their fight. Environment, preparedness, allies, etc. YMMV. |
||
 |
 
|
||
|
Jan 18 2006, 01:42 AM
Post
#52
|
|
|
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
How do I make Agira Tetsumi less action-movie? And do you have any suggestions for names that aren't taken from the Sega Shadowrun game?
How do you say "Shadow of many faces" in Japanese? I have lots of Japanese majors as friends, but I'm lazy. I was thinking of adding "Kage" on the end of the first syllable of "Bunryaku," since his faces are like, I don't know, puppets, but then that woulud be "Bukage," and we all know what that sounds like. |
|
|
|
|
Jan 18 2006, 05:54 AM
Post
#53
|
|
|
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
REAL ULTIMATE BUMP!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Jan 18 2006, 07:51 AM
Post
#54
|
|||||
|
Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,863 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
thanks Steve, 'preciate the fact finding. 3 karma. Emo: MO< yes, a force 9 is too tough for most starting characters, unless you have say 6+ players. As an example, in melee combat, it's going to throw 18 dice. Starting characters, well augmented are going to be lucky throwing 15 if melle is one of their strong points. Also, 9 points of hardened armor. Unless you're in the habit of providing APDS for starting characters, they will have a very hard time hitting it. Just lower the force a bit and your game still works. As for action-movie esque.. lemme put it this way; We once had a player taht would GM sometimes. Everytime he did, he would come up with 'ultimate' NPC with some innane flaw, usually amnesia. I kid you not, he once had a guy that was a spell caster with no memeory, that won millions in one night of cards in a casino, and ripped the top turret off a a tank. He was a good example of someone that made Mary-Sue characters. That sounds a bit like this as well. Assuming this is an NPC that you wil be running in the game. If not, I may be a bit off base, although the character concept still seems pretty out landish, especially for a beginning character. How are you managing , for example, to be good friends w/ the Oyabun, and have a Red Samurai for weapons contact ,as well as a master of martial arts, disguise, and (I assume) an adept, and still cover other skills (such as pistols ) and attributes well enough to make him a viable character. Try toning down some of the character envy and all the firends in high places and it may be a bit more viable |
||||
|
|
|
||||
|
Jan 18 2006, 01:55 PM
Post
#55
|
|||
|
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180 |
Also, my Japanese is rusty, so I'm using an online dictionary to help (hint) but taking the "bu" from bunraku doesn't actually mean anything. If I recall correctly, Bunkraku is broken down into "Bun" and "Raku" in the Kanji. Bun = sentence; literature; style; art; decoration; figures; plan Raku = music; comfort; ease Together the translation is "puppet theatre" but that doesn't mean the "bu" means "puppet", or that anyone (especially the japanese) would know what you were doing if you took the "bu" and attached "kage" to it. ... unless you were going for "Art Shadow" or something... maybe... its probably a grammatical nightmare. |
||
|
|
|
||
|
Jan 18 2006, 01:58 PM
Post
#56
|
|
|
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180 |
Lol, acutally, a quick search showed that "bu" can mean "to dispise, or make light of"... so maybe the name could mean "He who dispises the darkness" or "one who makes light of shadow." ;-) Kinda cool, but maybe not what you were going for... plus it rhymes with a sperm-shower, which your players will pick up on immediatly.
|
|
|
|
|
Jan 18 2006, 03:28 PM
Post
#57
|
|
|
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
He does have high enough stats, and he's 400 BP. I'm having him be a player character in the one-shot.
|
|
|
|
|
Jan 18 2006, 03:35 PM
Post
#58
|
|||
|
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180 |
Are you running the game and playing the uber-guy? or just making him and giving him to one of the players? |
||
|
|
|
||
|
Jan 18 2006, 03:50 PM
Post
#59
|
|||
|
Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Or thay assumed that the g was a typo that should have been a k. Also not something that you really want. |
||
|
|
|
||
|
Jan 18 2006, 04:32 PM
Post
#60
|
|
|
Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
Aiee!
|
|
|
|
|
Jan 18 2006, 06:32 PM
Post
#61
|
|||||
|
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Sorry I took so long, but it helps if you spell it properly and repeat it three times. So what, why the comparison? You feel emo's post forcing you to dust off the little gray cells and put them to use?
Apparently biting your tongue doesn't stop you from posting. Maybe try biting your fingers instead? Emo, you need not pay much heed to this ninny-naysayers. To give them some sort of credibitily you'd have to ignore that they are posting here after decrying and predicting SR4 as the coming of the antichrist without having the class and/or nads of say Cheops to own up and admit afterward that their predictions were more than a little off. What i'm trying to say, without making it a personal attack, is that Critias especially is prone to hamming up the Rebel Without A Clue schtick of trying to claim some sort of intellectual independant thought by wringing his teenage angst hands. But, you know, it's really tough to explain what a pud he acts like without being at least a little bit insulting. ;) Speaking of which where is James? Did he banned again? -------- Anyway to the topic of the thread and the initial idea. I think PlatonicPimp really hit on a good idea with having it as quack medical use bounty that is a front for Human Nation purging the human traitor elf-posers. You don't even need to bother weekly rolls to check how many ears are collected to reduce prices. If they snuff to many people or the wrong people, and the wrong people also tend to be the kind that has money for cosmetic surgery, that is pretty much all the throttle you need to keep them from farming phat loot. Of course it depends a bit on your game. If you run one where the plot has little or no internally valid logic to start with then using that angle is kind of a foul. EDIT: Haven't made it through the other ideas. The last post by hyzmarca has me a little leary of treading there, but i'll try work through them and post some suggests if i find some time. |
||||
|
|
|
||||
|
Jan 18 2006, 08:34 PM
Post
#62
|
|
|
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
I want to play SR4, but no one's running a game. I'm thinking of having one of the players run a game every third or fourth week and playing Bukage.
|
|
|
|
|
Jan 18 2006, 09:14 PM
Post
#63
|
|||
|
Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Oh dear. I know this has been brought up earlier, but I didn't realize how right that poster was until I saw it. Yes, for some reason it's easier for me to replace that 'g' with a 'k' at a glance than to read it how it's meant. Just... be warned. I wouldn't be surprised if that comes up in game. |
||
|
|
|
||
|
Jan 18 2006, 09:17 PM
Post
#64
|
|
|
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180 |
yes, please do name him that. The look on your fellow players faces would be priceless. PLus, your GM might give yo ua free point of notoriety for being the shadowrunner going by the handle 'Bukage'.
|
|
|
|
|
Jan 18 2006, 10:46 PM
Post
#65
|
|
|
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
That would be AWESOME in a horrible way. I'll make it so that he didn't get the name himself. One of his unwanted groupies from the ninja clan will have spent much of his time and money secretly spreading the rumors of a legendary ninja named Bukage out of a misguided sense of dog-like loyalty. The ninja nominally named Bukage will be quite pissed at this, since even though he doesn't like this "subordinate," he understands all too well that this is the kind of thing he does. His personal mission, on top of killing people for money and negotiating brilliantly for it, will be to kill this man out of sheer ire and embarrassment.
|
|
|
|
|
Jan 18 2006, 10:47 PM
Post
#66
|
|
|
Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Oh, sweet innocence.
|
|
|
|
|
Jan 18 2006, 11:32 PM
Post
#67
|
|
|
Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
I can only repeat my mantra: he's learning, he's learning, he's learning.
|
|
|
|
|
Jan 19 2006, 12:30 AM
Post
#68
|
|
|
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
What am I supposed to be learning? This seems like a fun idea.
|
|
|
|
|
Jan 19 2006, 02:35 AM
Post
#69
|
|||
|
Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Yes, "Bukage" is a name that will inspire lots of chortles of laughter and shudders. Especially when said aloud, it is almost identical to the name of a vividly disturbing genre of Nippon pornography. Don't go there. --- On the subject of a Force 9 Mantid. It won't necessarily kill your whole party, but it will be able to essentially ignore several members of your team. It has Immunity to Normal Weapons, and that means 18 points of hardened armor. Of course, it rolls 9 Willpower dice and has 13 stun boxes - an overcast Stunbolt could quite easily disrupt the thing in one shot (or 2 at the most). Ultimately, a high force spirit is like a big computer virus - it's not necessarily something your players can't handle, but it is something that most of your players can't do anything about. That can be problematic from the standpoint of running a game - since the hacker and street sam will be frozen out of the encounter with the spirit (just as the mage and street sam would be frozen out of the encounter with the computer virus) it can actually end up feeling anticlimactic for several of the players. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm saying that such a villain should only be used as a one-off. It doesn't involve the whole team particularly, so don't devote too much time to it. -Frank |
||
|
|
|
||
|
Jan 19 2006, 03:02 AM
Post
#70
|
|
|
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
I've been thinking of that, too. The rigger/hacker would be useless. I was thinking of having the mantid catch them and give them a counter-offer to give back the car but assassinate the Yakuza oyabun for, like, 5 times the money. There will be a few token bullet holes to make it look like something other than a setup, but it'll be good to go once the race starts. Getting into the garage won't be much of a problem, either. And being the honorable people they are, they'll probably take up the offer.
Also, what does a technomancer/rigger use Resonance for, besides sprites and increasing the cap on his complex forms? |
|
|
|
|
Jan 19 2006, 04:34 AM
Post
#71
|
|||
|
Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
*ahem* Fuck. You. There. See how quick threads degenerate into nothing at all but name calling and hurled insults, the moment you poke your retarded fucking head into them? Couldn't help but stir shit up, could you, you degenerate little fuck? Here's Boskop Albatros and Emo Samurai asking a metric ton of stupid shit questions, here's Crit mostly containing his disdain and even occasionally answering questions and offering opinions in a positive manner -- but whoops, here's Blakkie, just comin' in and takin' a big runny poop in the middle of the conversation! And away things go! Whee! I wasn't talking to you, I wasn't talking about you, I like to think you're dead whenever I'm not actually reading one of your recent posts. Hell, I haven't even spoken up abour SR4 and my like or dislike of it, for a good long fucking while -- I even pointedly set aside my feelings for it, recently, to present a fairly even-handed comparison of editions out in the non-SR4-dedicated forum, just a day or two ago. Does that fucking matter to you, though, you inbred fuck? Of course not. Gotta stir shit up. And you see what happens? See what happens when you can't just fucking leave well enough alone, or ignore my post and talk to Emo without your little fucking bullshit rant? Threads get all shit on, that's what. So you ignore me, I'll try and go back to ignoring you, and the odds of both of us dying peacefully in our sleep, years from now, goes way the fuck up, okay? |
||
|
|
|
||
|
Jan 19 2006, 05:57 AM
Post
#72
|
|
|
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
Now, now, boys. Play nice.
|
|
|
|
|
Jan 19 2006, 06:17 AM
Post
#73
|
|
|
Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,863 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Emo: sometimes it is ok to have groups go up against something that not everyone can effect. For one simple reason:life isn't fair. Don't do it often, and don't do it right away (like, say, the first run for a new group IMO), and don't make it some thing that you'll need the whole group to take (for example, a force 9 Mantid). It can be interesting just to remind people why a team is built of different skill groups, and not all one type. Also, I'd suggest taht if you do it, don't make it something only the mage can effect. Most people hate that.
That being said, I'd go ahead w/ the Mantid, but with a few changes. 1- lower the force to 4, 5or 6 if oyu want it to be recurring and not something they're going to figh. Higher if it will be a major plot character. 2- don't have it pay them. Not with moeny at least. Pay them by letting them live. also, remember that classic line "what's my motivation?" WHY is the Mantid doing all this? What does it have to gain? Even if the PC's never find out, having it's motives in mind gives it much more character and depth. As for the ninja, my continuing problem with him is the groupie/hero worship. The idea, at least in my mind, that a ninja would basically worship another enough to spread his name in another country (or even their own dojo for that matter) as a 'legendary ninja' just seems ludricrous to me. Keep the character concept, keep the abilities, just drop the "everyone loves him, everyone wants to be him" mentality. I have characters that would kill him just for that. Hell, I'd bitch slap him myself (assuming I could bitch slap a "legendary ninja" that is). |
|
|
|
|
Jan 19 2006, 12:49 PM
Post
#74
|
|||||
|
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180 |
Unless the rest of the team likes the idea, an makes characters with similar one-letter-off names... "So, 'Ponky Dunch', 'Boston Steaner', and 'Bukage' walk into a bar..." |
||||
|
|
|
||||
|
Jan 19 2006, 02:19 PM
Post
#75
|
|||||
|
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
oH i am entertained. |
||||
|
|
|
||||
|
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 12th April 2022 - 03:27 PM |
Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.