 Is Scale (Lofwyr's shifty expediter) a Drake?, True to his name? |
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 Oct 3 2003, 07:02 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 26-July 03 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 5,029  |
In Saeder-Krupp's entry in Corporate Download, on p. 89, a Shadowland poster named Shetani mentions an entity called "Scale:"
Sounds like a possible drake (from Threats 2) to me. Thoughts? |
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Oct 3 2003, 07:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 |
I can't for the life of me find where I read this - possibly another thread on the old forums - but I'm fairly sure someone dug up something about this guy, and that he indeed was a Drake, or at least that there had been some severe indications that he was.
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Oct 3 2003, 08:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
Scale is a drake of some considerable power.
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Oct 3 2003, 08:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 26-July 03 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 5,029 |
Says who? Not that I'm disagreeing--it makes sense to me--but do you have a citation for this? |
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Oct 3 2003, 09:14 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
In my game, at least, he is a very powerful True Drake capable of assuming both Elven and T'skrang forms.
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Oct 3 2003, 11:06 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Dragons of the Sixth World "confirms" that Scale is indeed a drake.
Or that one of the Scales is a drake ;) |
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Oct 3 2003, 11:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 8-June 03 Member No.: 4,696 |
My GM last year decided that he should be a powerful free spirit (this was before DotSW was released), which if anything made him more annoying.
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Oct 4 2003, 03:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 26-July 03 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 5,029 |
Thanks K10, much app'd. :) |
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Oct 4 2003, 05:04 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Hey, I don't remember writing that... he has apparently been hunting drakes but I don't recall confirming that he himself is one. |
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Oct 6 2003, 09:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 114 Joined: 24-November 02 Member No.: 3,638 |
With a name like Scale and the things said about him in DotSW and CD it hadn't occurred to me that he might possibly not be a drake. But I guess it's possible.
Doesn't he post in the Drakes section of DotSW about joining a dragon being like getting a great salary and benefits and the like? That read to me like he was saying "this is why you should do as I have done." But I'm at work and can't look it up right now. |
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Oct 6 2003, 11:06 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Is everything about you? ;) Confirmation by percent 50% Corporate Download Saeder-Krupp section + Earthdawn 20% Threats 2 Dealings with Dragons + Dot6W Lofwyr 30% Dragons of the Sixth World Ryumyo |
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Oct 7 2003, 07:17 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 439 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .se Member No.: 625 |
Isn't he in one of the recent adventures? I seem to recall so ... He is definetly a drake.
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Oct 7 2003, 07:54 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 1-July 02 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,921 |
Scale is in the first adventure in Corporate Punishment. He represents the best possible way out of the predicament (and isn't that a scary thought?). |
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Oct 7 2003, 10:00 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 439 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .se Member No.: 625 |
yes CP that was the one .... knew he was in one of them.
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Oct 7 2003, 11:46 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Corporate Punishment doesn't confirm or deny his being a drake. In fact it leaves the whole issue open to GM interpretation.
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Oct 7 2003, 11:43 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
MAYBE Lofwyr has a true drake named Scale, AND an ally spirit named Scale who can take the same forms (drake, elf, lizard man (i.e. T'skrang)) - after all, Lofwyr likes having several people with the same 'street' name, and it would make using Scale be more of a benfit, if his actual abilities changed now and then. Keeo him more in the mystery, so to speak.
Ideally, quicken a mindlink spell to them so they are always in contact with one and another, and share each others knowledge... The more I think about it, the more likely this is. In theory, he could even have two ally spirits, or two drakes, or both... |
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Oct 8 2003, 12:16 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Lofwyr does not have an ally spirit, IMHO.
There can be many Scales, but the Big D pretty much clears up any confusion about the one and only dragon with an ally spirit. |
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Oct 8 2003, 01:07 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
When does Dunky state that only he has ally spirits?
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Oct 8 2003, 01:17 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Dragons of the Sixth World, Ryumyo chapter. Dunkelzahn states that summoning ally spirits does not appeal to dragons, "it is simply not in our nature." The ally spirits mentioned in the will were not his, just his favorite. |
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Oct 8 2003, 11:13 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
Well, just because Ryumyo is the only dragon with a known ally doesn't mean he's the only one.
If Lofwyr has an ally spirit which for all intents and purposes looks like Scale, he could hide it's existance as long as he took care not to send it where another great dragon risks meeting it. And moreover, Dunkie doesn't say that dragons don't summon allies - just that they rarely will - and the words Far Scholar makes use of are 'the idea simply does not appeal to us'. |
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Oct 8 2003, 11:24 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062 |
Being as dragons have a tendancy to meddle, especially with each other, I find it highly unlikely that none of the other dragons would have not encountered Scale especially if he was something that glowed as bright as an ally spirit. My money's on Scale being a Drake. That he can change into a T'skrang itches my curiosity glands a bit though. Can other Drakes do this? What are the conditions. Is it possible that Scale is immortal and actually has a relation to some/a/the T'skrang? Hmm... |
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Oct 13 2003, 03:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 107 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 75 |
Depends. What other known drakes are out there?
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Oct 13 2003, 08:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 439 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .se Member No.: 625 |
Known to whom? Everybody? Then none. But Ryan is one, Scale might be one (I think he is one, or atleast that was my interpretation). There where multiple posters in the shadowcomments about Drakes which I take could indicate that there are quite a few of them out there.
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Oct 13 2003, 01:20 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
A few drakes are revealed in Survival of the Fittest, and certainly there are hints of drakes in Threats 2, Dragons of the Sixth World, and certain previous works; though admittedly those could be "paracritter" drakes.
As for your question, Large Mike, the answer is likely no. Bred Drakes can only take on the for of their natural metahuman race and that of a iniature dracoform. It would require a True Drake (or perhaps a lesser construct) to appear in more forms. Even if a dragon granted a metahuman the ability to assue a drake form, they could not transform into the form of any other metahuman race without the aid of a shapechange spell. |
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Oct 13 2003, 02:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 283 Joined: 30-September 03 From: Kenmore, NY, USA Member No.: 5,663 |
Survival of the Fittest, Threats 2, Dragons of the Sixth World, and then other books, were mentioned as other books.
My question is does anyone have a more complete least. I need to read FanPro/FASA(possibly) material because well let's face it they wrote it, it is a book it will give the best idea of what these guys are. Thus I will hunt these books down. |
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