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post Jan 30 2006, 10:35 PM
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I think maybe you're missing my point - the data doesn't have to remain local, let alone in the device that did the recording.

It could even be mirrored to half a dozen different places (which, if you think about it, would probably be required for most security personnel.)

Overall, the odds of successfully removing the data after-the-fact (sans hacker) are pretty close to zero.


Any runner going around ripping out eyes is going to get a reputation of being unprofessional very quickly.
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post Jan 30 2006, 10:43 PM
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With the appropriate directional jammer running that picture is going no where outside his body. Unless they bought an ECCM program.

So a much better plan is to not be reconizable anyway. That way you don't actually have to kill the poor sap, just knock him out or intimidate him.
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post Jan 30 2006, 10:49 PM
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post Jan 31 2006, 02:18 PM
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I'll chime in again...

Yeah the security guard is supposed to turn them on for his shift, but he's probably likely to turn them off when he's doing something he might not be supposed to be doing...or when he's taking a leak...or on break.

Secondly...who needs to cut out the cybereyes (which aren't guarenteed to have the data) when you have a hacker hrm?
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post Jan 31 2006, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0)
well, since they're supposed to run oof of bio-electricity, they should cut off jsut after barin death (since there's little reason to have back up power. who cares if you're eyes don't work if you're brain dead).

Damn, that bioelectricity crap made it into SR4?

The human body doesn't generate enough electricity to power an LED. How could it power cyberware with that electricity?

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I know as a person in 2070 i wouldn't record all the time...


Yeah, turning it off in a bathroom would be all but required. Can you imagine one of your last moments (reviewed in court) being something like looking at the extent of "blow through" on your finger when you were wiping?

"Ewww...damned cheap corp, only buys single-ply butt wipes...look at that, it got under the nail! Hey! Occupied! This stall is occupied!"

[Blam Blam Blam]

"Ack...shot...someone shot me...with my pants around my ankles and (cough cough) blow through on my finger..."
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post Jan 31 2006, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (Cray74)
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well, since they're supposed to run oof of bio-electricity

Damn, that bioelectricity crap made it into SR4?

I dunno about bioelectricity, that sounds like those blood-spun turbines. Exactly how many watts of power does the human heart put out? And what happens when you get a cyber-heart? Perpetual Motion?

We assumed they ran on blood-based fuel cells. I've read articles about fuel cells that run on glucose IRL. Of course, they currently spit out totally puny amounts of power but hey, it's the future. An alternative viable for any cyber exposed to the open air is a peltier generator that turns a percentage of waste heat leaving the body into electricity.

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post Jan 31 2006, 09:20 PM
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We have spoken of bioelectricity previously. I even got to say "woot" in the process.
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post Jan 31 2006, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE (Cray74 @ Jan 31 2006, 11:33 AM)
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0)
well, since they're supposed to run oof of bio-electricity, they should cut off jsut after barin death (since there's little reason to have back up power. who cares if you're eyes don't work if you're brain dead).

Damn, that bioelectricity crap made it into SR4?

The human body doesn't generate enough electricity to power an LED. How could it power cyberware with that electricity?

Yes, it snuck in with another wacky idea. The Nanopaste Disguise is described as being powered by it. Nanopaste Disguise is sort of like a T2000 Terminator style body mask in a tube.

Glucose powered cells that used are change a battery I could sort of see running cyberware. But you would have to start eating a lot more Cocoa Puffs to power some of the more energetic implants.
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post Jan 31 2006, 11:04 PM
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One of the reasons that the smartlinked-out-of-the-box Predator was always a favorite in SR3 (although street index going away has reduced some of this)... one of the cheapest replacement smartguns on the market for after you disassembled the old one and tossed the parts out the window along 10 miles of highway, post-hit. Not a bad habit to get into, IMO.

Makes people who use custom guns cry, though.
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post Feb 1 2006, 12:00 AM
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nobody needs cybereys. You can have small sensor tags recording everything you do 24/7
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post Feb 1 2006, 01:07 AM
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I dunno about bioelectricity, that sounds like those blood-spun turbines.  Exactly how many watts of power does the human heart put out?  And what happens when you get a cyber-heart?  Perpetual Motion?

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/IradaM...Muslumova.shtml

Estimates for human heart power output are in the range of 1 to 5W, with most clustering a little under 2 Watts.

The amount of power in a given artery for a turbine to tap will be a fraction of that, and probably very needed by the circulatory system.

Y'know, Battletech actually has a set of volunteer factcheckers who check for continuity and science issues for new publications. Does Shadowrun do anything similar?

I just spotted another SR4 scientific issue with the thermite bar (pg327 SR4) - "a rod of thermite and oxygen mounted on a handle..." A thermite reaction is, by definition, a reaction between two solids, one containing oxygen (e.g., iron oxide) and another, more active metal (e.g., aluminum). The two materials together are called "thermite." That's similar to the idea in Target: Wastelands that guns need oxygen to work in space (gunpowder is an oxygenated compound - it doesn't need external air; in fact, it can't use external air.)

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