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Triggerz
post Nov 21 2006, 11:44 AM
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Ok, it's not exactly a typo, but I thought I'd suggest it here anyways as it has to do with clarifying the way the rules should be used. Quite often, it is not obvious whether a particular bonus is subject (or not) to the attribute or skill caps.

In another thread, hyzmarca suggested:
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They should clearly mark all powers, cyberware, spells, and drugs that add dice with an A for augmented or a B for bonus, just as they would clearly mark the ammo capacity of a gun. [...]

Bonuses are identified with a (+), are paired with a specialization, and do not count towards the augmented caps. Augmentations are just a plain () and do count towards the cap.

That particular notation allows one to quickly and easily distinguish between augmentations and bonuses, which is an important distinction but one which is not nearly as clear as it should be.

My suggestion is a similar notation system for stats [Stat (spec) (other spec) value (augmented value) (+bonus) (+other bonus)] or [Stat value (augmented value (spec) (+bonus) (other spec) (+other bonus)] if the former is too confusing. So a character with Reaction 3, Improved Reflexes 2 and combat sense 4 would write [Reaction (dodge and surprise) 3 (5) (+4)]


I think that having all powers, cyberware, bioware, equipment, spells and drugs marked explicitely as either an augmentation (A) or a bonus (B) would be tremendously useful. I'm suggesting it here because a future errata could easily include the various lists (adept powers, cyberware, spells, and so on) with (A) or (B) for each of them. Ideally, the "augmentation" and "bonus" terminology should be used consistently throughout the book, but a simple list would be awesome to start with and would be enough to address the present ambiguities.
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post Nov 21 2006, 03:34 PM
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Adding too many labels in the books could get cumbersome, I'm not sure, but I'm 100% for a complete list as web supplement.
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post Nov 28 2006, 01:32 AM
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Page 99: Smuggler

"Moderate Allergy to Sunlight (+10 BP)", but according to page 81 Sunlight is a common substance (worth 7 points). so it should be:
"Moderate Allergy to Sunlight (+15 BP)", and thus give the Smuggler another 5 BPs.

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post Dec 3 2006, 04:15 AM
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P. 228, 1st column: INTRUSION COUNTERMEASURES
Wrong: More proactive IC programs may be loaded with additional utilities such as Exploit or Stealth, and may actively pursue intruders if they leave the node or even track the intruder back to his originating node and attack him there.
Right: Most proactive IC programs may be loaded with additional utilities such as Exploit or Stealth, and may actively pursue intruders if they leave the node or even track the intruder back to his originating node and attack him there.

I think this is correct in that they intend to say that the IC which would track an intruder down is more proactive than the average, not that the majority of IC considered to be proactive may have these programs.
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post Dec 5 2006, 07:24 AM
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If you look at what a gas-vent and a sound supressor do, it appears impossible to me to fit them on the same gun. A gas-vent uses gas channeled in a specific direction to counter the rise of the gun-barrel. A sound supressor traps the gas from the barrel to prevent it from leaving the muzzle at supersonic speed. So basically the two items are doing two completely opposite things.
Besides, when I remember correctly, the old Cannon Companion, which still is the best we have concerning rules for building and modding guns, stated that only one device can be used per mount.

I assumed that it was an Ingram-unique tech. If you disperse and redirect the force enough, it should serve both purposes. If not, then it can easily be explained as one of those things that they said to excuse for game purposes.
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post Dec 9 2006, 10:27 AM
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Locking this down to pave the way for a new thread for the 4th printing, as hopefully all of these have been caught and attended to :)

Once the 4th Print (and the new PDF version) are released, we'll start up a new thread.

Thanks to everyone who's posted for their help nailing down these pesky little bugs! :)

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