 Are dual natured beings suckers for astral attack? |
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 Mar 6 2006, 01:32 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 6-March 06 Member No.: 8,339  |
It's clear that the down side of being dual natured is that such critters can be attacked on the astral plane but the critters stats in the book don't include any Astral Combat skill so can they defend them selves at all? The obvious thing to do is to let them use their physical combat skills on the astral plane but the rules don't let them do that.
So if I set a spirit on a barghest on the astral plane the barghest must use Astral Combat because the spirit is wholely astral, a skill which it doesn't have and which can't be defaulted. It seems the only time you can use physical combat skills on the astral plane is if you are astrally perceiving and have a weapons focus.
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Mar 6 2006, 02:13 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,138 Joined: 10-June 03 From: Tennessee Member No.: 4,706 |
Looks like it. As a GM, I'd just assume that all dual natured critters have astral combat and that the stat entries for those that don't are in error.
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Mar 6 2006, 03:26 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
I'd rule it that dual natured critters don't have any concept of the seperation between the real and astral worlds as they are permanently dual natured and are that way from birth. Thus, I'd just use their physical combat skills on the astral plane and call it even. Sure, the spirit they're attacking doesn't have a physical form, but that wouldn't really bother me. The extra initiative passes the spirit probably has are more than enough to make the critter pulp, more likely than not.
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Mar 6 2006, 03:26 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
or rule, that since they are dual natured (and not just astrally projecting) that those CAN default on the astral combat skill.
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May 20 2006, 12:29 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,401 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 6,099 |
Makes you wonder a little if the people you see in real life that seem to be fighting thin air, are actually just dual natured and are fending off evil spirits to keep us safe.
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May 20 2006, 12:39 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
And here I though giving dogs orichalcum teeth was just for the bling.
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May 21 2006, 07:09 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
so would a ghoul use unarmed combat to attack an astral form then? Seems logical since they are listed under critters, and are ni many cases dual natured from birth. Would that work differently for a ghoul that became one by infection?
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May 22 2006, 02:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 18-March 02 From: Plymouth UK. Member No.: 2,408 |
As I've mentioned before.
I believe that Astral Combat is a Combat Skill for an Astral Form, and that if you Are Physical then you use a Physical Combat Skill. It doesn't matter what you are fighting, it's the skill YOU possess at the craft at hand. |
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