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Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019  |
What causes it, besides getting cyberware or deadly injuries?
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Mar 11 2006, 03:57 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Drugs.
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Mar 11 2006, 04:46 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,635 Joined: 27-November 05 Member No.: 8,006 |
Anything that causes Essense loss. Just check page 61 in your SR4 book emo for the larger list. SR4 has, at least for now, removed Magic loss causes outside of Essense loss.
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Mar 11 2006, 04:48 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Essence loss, bio index increase (IIRC they made that an errata), drugs, Deadly wounds, and those magical duels they described in Magic in the Shadows. There's a bunch of other stuff that can do it, but it's all temporary.
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Mar 12 2006, 02:54 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 7-March 06 From: Returned to Richmond Member No.: 8,342 |
And remember kiddies burnouts are an excellent chance to introduce the Aleph society =P.
I ran one of my players through a small run with them, and since i had not read up on them in a while i was pleasantly surprised to see that they have a tiny connection to the atlantean foundation, and so does that Player. huzzah for GM luck. |
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Mar 14 2006, 01:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 |
Actually the only real way to Burnout is to lose essece with any of the above plus some more ways. Then take a Geas, then break that Geas.
At this drastic point you can no longer increase your magic through intiation and therefore are truely on the path of the burnout. All the others can be countered by initiating to a higher level to recoupe lossed magical potential bar a single magic loss to zero. Some what Twisted, I think you will agree that takeing a geas to off set magic loss is in part the only way to truely BurnOut. |
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Mar 14 2006, 02:33 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I do not agree. As you yourself point out, if you simply do not get around to initiating (for whatever reason) before that last point of Magic goes, you have burned out.
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Mar 14 2006, 02:41 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
How strict do geasa have to be?
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Mar 14 2006, 03:29 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
Absolutely strict. Either they are upheld or they are broken. No middle ground.
SR3: See MitS. SR4 doesn´t have them so far (I think). |
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Mar 14 2006, 03:45 PM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
Which is because you can buy your magic att. now. No more burnouts in Sr4.
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Mar 14 2006, 05:59 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,635 Joined: 27-November 05 Member No.: 8,006 |
You can still burn out. If you drop your essense low enough and haven't Initiated definately no more mojo. In any event after your essense drops below 1 you can nolonger Initiate so your magic becomes capped at whatever your Grade is at that point. |
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Mar 14 2006, 09:21 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
Getting molested by a vampire too much also does it.
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Mar 16 2006, 01:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 |
I understand that practically they are the same thing, however with broken Geas you no longer have the choice to initiate. Your magic attribute has only one way to go and that is down. Hence 'true' burnout. |
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