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post Mar 12 2006, 07:25 PM
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SO last night we decided that controll manipulation spells might be too powerful. In SR3 there was a threshold of 1/2 w, not so in the new system (that we can find.) So my mystic adept with spellcasting 3 and magic (for spellcasting etc.) 3 and a force 2 power focus can cast a force 3 controll thoughts and make most people dance any tune they want if only for 3 combat turns (usuallylong enough to have my subject frag up their own buddies.)
Another question is which mental control spells does the victim realize he's been affected by? Control actions would seeem obvious, but what about control thoughts and emotions? If they're used subtly, does the victim automaticaly know they've been effected? Smae question with certain critter powers.
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- fool   are control manipulation spells too powerful?   Mar 12 2006, 07:25 PM
- - eidolon   My guess is yes. They were/are too powerful in SR...   Mar 12 2006, 07:32 PM
- - TinkerGnome   SR3 had the downfall of rarer breakout tests, thou...   Mar 12 2006, 07:48 PM
- - eidolon   They do in my game. With the exception of Influen...   Mar 12 2006, 08:04 PM
- - Thanee   They probably know that there has been something m...   Mar 12 2006, 08:08 PM
- - jervinator   The increased frequency of the breakout tests actu...   Mar 12 2006, 08:34 PM
- - mdynna   I don't have the rules handy but isn't the...   Mar 12 2006, 08:54 PM
- - Thanee   You only need one net hit to get (force) combat tu...   Mar 12 2006, 09:08 PM
- - hobgoblin   and that makes them fine for short brainfucks like...   Mar 12 2006, 10:08 PM
- - Zen Shooter01   RE the subject noticing, don't forget the Noti...   Mar 12 2006, 11:34 PM
- - Thanee   It's not better, that's why it has less Dr...   Mar 12 2006, 11:50 PM
- - Dranem   Control Actions: subject is more conscious that th...   Mar 13 2006, 04:49 AM
- - Rooks   So the Influence is really pointless if the person...   Mar 13 2006, 06:57 AM
- - Thanee   Influence is a single permanent (until completed) ...   Mar 13 2006, 07:25 AM
- - tisoz   QUOTE For about the same level of effort, you coul...   Mar 13 2006, 08:51 AM
- - Thanee   The only real answer there is to this is, that it...   Mar 13 2006, 11:39 AM
- - TinkerGnome   The way it works in my games is that influence is ...   Mar 13 2006, 01:18 PM
- - neko128   QUOTE (tisoz) QUOTE For about the same level of ef...   Mar 13 2006, 03:28 PM
- - mdynna   Turn to Goo is Sustained is it not? Plus, I think...   Mar 13 2006, 03:52 PM
- - TinkerGnome   I would highly encourage rereading the spell befor...   Mar 13 2006, 04:08 PM
- - Dv84good   QUOTE (mdynna) The above-mentioned Mystic Adept wo...   Mar 13 2006, 11:27 PM


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