 Living in the Shadows: Recruitment 2, Updated and Better than Ever |
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 Jun 8 2006, 06:00 AM
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Prime Runner  Group: Members Posts: 3,763 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Special Hell Member No.: 284  |
Unfortunately, there is little correlation between SR3's Phoenix totem and SR4's Fire-Bringer mentor spirit. But it's the closest fit with the character.
Makeover (physical) Type: P, Range: Touch, Duration: P, DV: (F/2)+2 Threshold = 1/2 subject's charisma. Hits above threshold add as bonus dice to charisma tests.
Fashion (physical) Type: P, Range: Touch, Duration: P, DV: (F/2)+3 Threshold = 1/2 ballistic or impact armor rating of clothing, whichever is higher. Spell cannot create armored clothing.
There was a spell in SR3 called Mist which had the same effect, although not specifically thermally based. Until spell creation rules are promulgated, use shadow for visual camouflage. Thermocline (environmental, area) Type: P, Range: LOS, Duration: S, DV: (F/2)+1 Raises ambient temperature in the area, degrading thermographic vision and sensors by one for every hit, maximum -6. Does not affect normal, low-light, or astral perception. |
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Jun 8 2006, 02:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 717 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 603 |
Haha.... and just a few rats so the old phobias can kick in! OoOoOo we should totally do a little "reunion" scene haha..... Anyway, the char's almost done.... still fleshing out enemies stats and extraneous contacts stuff. Will be sent in very very soon. |
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Jun 9 2006, 02:47 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,289 Joined: 20-April 04 Member No.: 6,260 |
Rokur and Grendel - First, I am presuming you already read the Guidelines, so you are aware of what we are looking for in the initial submission. That doesn't sound like it will be a problem for Phoenix, since she is a previously developed character, albeit one that needs to be remade. Nonetheless, from what I saw I think she's fascinating, and I really like a lot of the gutsy decisions you made in her background. I would very much like to see her in her entirety. In case you did not delve into this in detail in your previous background of the character, I will tell you in advance that I will want to know (among other things) very specifically Jennifer's reaction to her rape, her rationale for the murder of her assailants, and her response to the murders and subsequent flight from home. I will treat this topic will all the seriousness and respect it deserves, but such a sequence of events is undoubtedly one of the linchpins of her life, and I think that much of the character development (both in the backstory and the game) will hinge upon your explanation and interpretation of how these events affected Jennifer. The reason I tell you this now is because they are such powerful subjects (rape and revenge), I want to give you advance warning and time to consider them carefully, so you can work through the details and come up with a satisfactory understanding of these events in Jennifer's life prior to submission. In a nutshell, I respect your writing such a difficult subject into your character, and I want myself and your future GM to be able to do the character and the subject justice, and that means we need a thorough understanding of where Jennifer is coming from in relation to the topic. Specific Replies (I realize Grendel already replied to your initial questions, he and I are discussing them and these constitute the 'updated' replies):
From what you've revealed so far, it seems that Phoenix is far more appropriate than Fire-Bringer. We will work on creating an SR 4 version of the Phoenix totem to use until such time as it is overriden, if ever, by a subsequent sourcebook. Grendel, do you have any suggestions on this?
I agree with the mechanics of the spell, but I have to ask, can this spell be used more than once on the same target to 'stack' results, or is it a one time only deal, or do future uses of the spell override previous ones? Giving someone a permanent bonus to charisma dice/tests is a significant advantage, and I'm not exactly seeing any downside here. There doesn't necessarily have to be a downside, I just don't want it to get out of hand. Grendel and/or Rokur, thoughts?
No problems with what Grendel said. We'll go with it as he wrote.
Rokur, how important is this spell to Phoenix? If it's one of her 'key spells', I don't mind asking Grendel to make up specific mechanics for it. If it's just another spell in her arsenal (albeit a custom one), then I'd stick with his response to this, and note his suggested spell 'Thermocline'. Finally, if Phoenix has a history with Ivan and Cosmo, I suggest writing that up and including that in the background, since it's always a cool thing to be able to have prior ties between characters, since it drives home the feeling that people have heard of and even worked with other figures in the shadow community. So if you would like to add the connection and history with Phoenix and Ivan and Cosmo, I think that would be an excellent addition to Phoenix's background story. Please let me know if you have any more questions or issues, and feel free to post them here or via PM. I'm really looking forward to having you join us, and from the looks of things, it would seem Morgannah and Shadow are as well! :) EDIT: Character specific questions can be sent to me via PM or email, but mechanics questions, such as the ones above, are best addressed in this thread so that Grendel can see them as well, since he's our main rules guy. |
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Jun 9 2006, 02:50 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,289 Joined: 20-April 04 Member No.: 6,260 |
If Cosmo ever catches up to Ivan and Phoenix's timeline, it might happen. (That's an encouragement for you to sustain your 'Post Flurry Mode' Morgannah. ;) ) |
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Jun 9 2006, 03:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 717 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 603 |
Thermocline/steamy mist - It's not the MOST important spell in her arsenal.... but it was merely a cool extension over her mastery of manipulating fire with magic.
I don't mind using the Thermocline spell currently there, while the Shadow spell would not fit her "style" and thus won't be taken most likely. Thus Thermocline would probably be very rarely used. Unless we made Shadow into another spell called like smoke which would be maybe heating dust particles of the air to cause excess black smoke which impedes sight like shadow.... hmm.... Makeover spell - Each time the spell is used I assumed it would replace the old Makeover... it's an SR3 spell and was used that way. And I think the charisma bonus would only last as long as the subject didn't shower, sweat alot, or otherwise do anything that would change her appearance. If the spell would work without the charisma bonus, that would be fine... since she will use the spell to look grungy at times to "blend" with crowds.... Also about the specific history between Ivan, Cosmo, Phoenix, and about 6 others... they only worked together on one run currently... the specifics of which are very hazy.... as a matter of fact, I believe GRENDEL gmed that game??? and maybe could help with the specifics... All I remember is going off to some distant armory, levitating over a fence and changing Blitz's clothes into "sexy" which was an interesting situation for Blitz needless to say... Unfortunately I believe there was a part 2 to the game... but RL reasons did not allow me to partake :( And about the Background... I'm writing it out again now since I've given up on finding it. I'm trying to write it as cinematic as possible... and will be made VERY clear on what emotions, thoughts, and feelings she had and why she felt she had to do what she did. |
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Jun 9 2006, 03:22 AM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Yeah it was one run, but it was a bonding experience, at least for Ivan. The reason being, and I wish the jive forums were working so that you could read it, with all seven runners int he room, and Blitz, a psycho mage whos name I can't remember, cast mind control (or tried too) on Blitz. Needless to say this wasn't savvy with Ivan and he was ready to go Banzai on said mage. The player felt that he could take everyone in the room out with out breaking a sweat. I belive Gabriel (played by BGMFH) ended up putting a jacket over the guys head so he couldn't see. And that ended the negotiations. It was pretty intense.
The run after was pretty cool, and alas the second part never really got off the ground. Because of that run though there are certain players, and characters I have always felt attached too. Hell it was like 4 years ago? |
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Jun 9 2006, 06:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 803 Joined: 16-March 02 From: The Great White North Member No.: 2,386 |
It was The Mandarin! Remember the sour grapes after all that, too? He posted that he was calling his fixer with some information that would be of interest to Blitz's nemesis (Nikiado? Nikaido? Something like that, I think) after we sent him packing? Crazy stuff.. Anyway, I'll try to step Cos' story up as much as possible so that the proposed meeting, at least, would not be a temporal impossibility. :grinbig: Not that I'd recommend having a party at Cosmo's apartment or anything .... |
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Jun 9 2006, 07:41 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,763 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Special Hell Member No.: 284 |
It's not permanent in the way you're thinking. The spell works to effect a change that doesn't require sustainment by the mage. But it's an effect that can be changed once it becomes permanent. That is, if you cast makeover on your runner buddy to change his hair from blonde to black in order to escape a dragnet of police looking for a blonde haired runner, nothing's going to stop your buddy from buying a bottle of hydrogen peroxide and dying his hair back to blonde once you get back to your safehouse. Or, waiting for six weeks or so until his hair grows out in its original blonde color. As for the Phoenix mentor spirit, there's no reason why we can port over the SR3 version virtually intact. Phoenix Advantages: +1 die health and illusion spells, +2 dice air spirits Disadvantages: cannot summon spirits of man, min charisma 4 The run that Ivan, Phoenix, and Cosmo were involved with was called Razorblade Smile. I was, indeed, the GM. The events of the run took place during October of 2061, so it's conceivable that all three runners, in their current incarnations, do remember each other. I know that Cosmo's history was written specifically to include those events. Or, rather, that her current predicament is a result of her participation in those events. If all three do manage to meet up again, I'd be more than willing to work as their GM. After all, it's not every day you get a second chance to kill a runner team. |
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Jun 9 2006, 02:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 534 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Bug City Member No.: 7,016 |
I'm sure that was just a mis-print. Move along, nothing to see here citizen. |
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Jun 9 2006, 03:41 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,020 Joined: 11-March 02 From: The MSP 'Plex Member No.: 2,326 |
WR:
Any chance you've gotten Lana's first stab at a sheet? Or did it not reach you? |
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Jun 9 2006, 03:55 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
Ivan says "Be bringink it on." |
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Jun 9 2006, 06:14 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,289 Joined: 20-April 04 Member No.: 6,260 |
Technically, wouldn't it be the third chance? I seem to remember a run called 'Eyes of Long Knives' (where I first met Grendel) that was supposed to be the follow up run to 'Razorblade Smile'. Is that an official part of Cosmo and Ivan's offical histories? Vegas - I did get your first stab at a sheet, but it wasn't completed, so I didn't know if you wanted me to comment on it or not. My apologies, I thought it was just a 'here's what I have so far, still working on it' kind of thing. Let me know if you'd like me to comment on it and I will do so as soon as I can. |
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Jun 9 2006, 06:27 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,763 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Special Hell Member No.: 284 |
Well, like Rokur said, only Ivan and Cosmo participated in Eyes of Long Knives, and then Ivan for only a little while longer than Cosmo due to her having to drop out and the run overall grinding to a halt. So I don't actually count that since none of my evil plans were given time to come to fruition.
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Jun 9 2006, 06:33 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,031 Joined: 23-April 04 From: Cal Free Member No.: 6,278 |
Yep. I have to say again how much I am glad Grendel is not my GM. I think I would be into my second or third character right now. :D
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Jun 9 2006, 06:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 803 Joined: 16-March 02 From: The Great White North Member No.: 2,386 |
Where's the fun in killing someone right away? I hear Grendel likes to play with his food runners before he eats kills it them.
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Jun 9 2006, 06:38 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,289 Joined: 20-April 04 Member No.: 6,260 |
Oh ok. Evil plans not coming to fruition = run not counting. Understood. :)
And I like how our 'evil GM trademark line' has become Grendel's infamous, "Move along, nothing to see here citizen." How utterly appropriate. |
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Jun 9 2006, 06:39 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,763 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Special Hell Member No.: 284 |
You say that as if it were a bad thing. |
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Jun 9 2006, 06:59 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
I just know this is going to get me killed, but has Grendel ever acutlly killed anyone? In game I mean...
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Jun 9 2006, 07:02 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,763 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Special Hell Member No.: 284 |
Not on the forums. Yet.
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Jun 9 2006, 07:09 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
I'm a dead man now arn't I.
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Jun 9 2006, 07:12 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,763 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Special Hell Member No.: 284 |
Actually, the question you have to ask is: will the character suffer more if I let him live? Or will it suffice to have him die in a spectacularly painful manner?
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Jun 9 2006, 07:22 PM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
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Thats not funny. |
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Jun 9 2006, 07:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 717 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 603 |
I'm in! :P either way... fun RPing.... and I personally hate retiring chars I worked hard on... it's like they didn't have an ending... all good things must come to an end! |
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Jun 9 2006, 08:24 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,020 Joined: 11-March 02 From: The MSP 'Plex Member No.: 2,326 |
WR: No biggie, just wanted to make sure it didn't get lost in the digital universe somewhere. I think I have the sheet hammered out and almost done with gear. Still fleshing out the background as much as possible. :)
Might have it to you by the end of the night if things go my way. |
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Jun 9 2006, 08:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 803 Joined: 16-March 02 From: The Great White North Member No.: 2,386 |
... ... ... Uhmm .. I sort of like the idea of Cosmo retiring to some tropical island once all this is finished. You know, the kind with white sand, swaying palms, and umbrella drinks in coconuts served by a tall, beautifully tanned .... :love: Maybe we should just go with a telecomm conference and leave it at that. :grinbig: |
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