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post Mar 21 2006, 02:09 AM
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For the past several weeks a team of three seven-year-old human girls have cut a swathe of death and destruction throughout Desert Wars. This group was the brainchild of a middle manager in the PR division of a major Megacorp.

The girls themselves are corporate brats who were chosen for their sickeningly sweet cuteness and possess no innate combat abilities. Likewise, their deltagrade cyberware was spcificly designed to augment their cuteness first and provide combat abilities second. In all fairness, these children should have been slaughtered within minutes of first touching the sand. They weren't simply because opposing forces have standing orders to avoid harming them. You see, their age their cuteness and their popularity together mean that whichever Mega is responsible for their deaths will face considerable PR backlash and since esert Wars is televised there is no way to cover something like that up.


The runners are hired by a mysterious Johnson supposedly in the employ of the child soldiers' families for the purpose of extracting them and taking them to safety. This requires infiltrating a warzone and taking capturing some heavily armed and heavily cybered children who's actions are constantly recorded and broadcast over live trid and simsense. The Johnson, of course, works for a rival mega and may or may not butcher them for their 'ware.
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post Mar 21 2006, 02:36 AM
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Is anyone else highly disturbed?
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post Mar 21 2006, 02:43 AM
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No. This idea is awesome. But why don't the runners just snipe them?
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post Mar 21 2006, 03:04 AM
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probably because they've been given the cover of the johnson being a middle man for the families, who would want their darling children back alive. if they are told that they can kill the kids it would ruin that illusion and give the johnson's alterior motives away
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post Mar 21 2006, 03:10 AM
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You know, there was an anime series about this exact sort of thing...Earth Defense Force Mao-Chan, as I recall. Basically, earth (Japan in particular) was being invaded by sickeningly-cute aliens who would drop in and try to steal some cultural relic or other. The military didn't want to intervene, however, because of the PR backlash of attacking such cute aliens. So they countered by giving equipment, weapons, and (not nearly enough) training to a group of three 8-year-old girls, who would then engage the aliens. The result was a huge PR boost for the military, and some rather comedic misadventures for the three girls.
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post Mar 21 2006, 03:29 AM
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i... dunno. i guess if you're running the right type of campaign with the right type of players, the idea of fielding prepubescent kids might fly. but i wouldn't buy it. heck, i can't even see Desert Wars' target audience buying it. PR backlash, hell, most of the viewers would probably cheer for whoever popped these snotnosed brats. this isn't a family show, this is war!

the idea itself is interesting, i just can't see it in something as intentionally violent as Desert Wars. maybe if the kids were reporting on the Desert Wars, for some kind of kids' show, or something.
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post Mar 21 2006, 03:55 AM
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I would see a PR backlash against whoever fielded the 3 girls.

Morality is alive and well in the middle classes of shadow run, any evil they perseve will be stoped, buy agreement of media outlets corporate immorality is never fully exposed to this group.

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post Mar 21 2006, 04:03 AM
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I'm just wondering who'd agree to that subclause in the 3,000-page contracts detailing each engagement.
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post Mar 21 2006, 04:57 AM
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Ok three sickly cute 7 year old girls running around a war zone with delta grade cyber and who knows what kind of weapons no real compat training....eh screw PR back lash give me a sniper rifle 3 shells, a crack sniper and there location easy fix. All the more fun as every mega goes and starts blaming the others for there deaths whats not to love aobut that? :smokin:
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post Mar 21 2006, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE (JonathanC @ Mar 20 2006, 10:10 PM)
You know, there was an anime series about this exact sort of thing...Earth Defense Force Mao-Chan, as I recall. Basically, earth (Japan in particular) was being invaded by sickeningly-cute aliens who would drop in and try to steal some cultural relic or other. The military didn't want to intervene, however, because of the PR backlash of attacking such cute aliens. So they countered by giving equipment, weapons, and (not nearly enough) training to a group of three 8-year-old girls, who would then engage the aliens. The result was a huge PR boost for the military, and some rather comedic misadventures for the three girls.

Yep. That's where I stole the idea from.

To quell the morality police and excite the bloodthirsty they'd proably give these girls fake backstories that paint them as bloodthirsty killers from the Barrens who can't fit into civilizedsociety because they are so brutally violent. This plays into the sterotype that all SINless street people are insane murders with combat cyberware yet it still allows them to be cute because they are just kids.

You'd also have the merchandising to consider. There will be Action figures and simsense games and anthroform sexbots sculped in their images. It will open up whole new markets for Desert Wars merchandise.


Also, a cute cyborg girl with a gyromounted minigun is still a cyborg with a gyromounted minigun.
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post Mar 21 2006, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE (hyzmarca)
To quell the morality police and excite the bloodthirsty they'd proably give these girls fake backstories that paint them as bloodthirsty killers from the Barrens who can't fit into civilizedsociety because they are so brutally violent. [...]

Also, a cute cyborg girl with a gyromounted minigun is still a cyborg with a gyromounted minigun.

And so no one of the soldiers and mercenaries involved into the Desert Wars would drop a shell on them or let a sniper do his job?
I doubt it, unless DW has a comedy spin-off... ;)

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post Mar 21 2006, 07:22 AM
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Why of course they would, but they are ordered not to by commanders who don't care if they live or die, you see. As compensation their death scenes will be immortalized in simsense and in action figure form.
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post Mar 21 2006, 07:36 AM
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And who expects soldiers to comply to an order that means their certain death? I am sorry, but this is way too much anime in SR for me.
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post Mar 21 2006, 07:44 AM
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At this point it becomes a choice between certain glorious death and certain execution for disobeying an order during a time of war. Death is certain either way but the former makes one a hero while the latter makes one a disgrace.
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post Mar 21 2006, 09:26 AM
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Ph33r the cute ones
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post Mar 21 2006, 09:45 AM
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No. It is the choice between a certain death and the slight possibility of escape. Someone following the order might be hero. But I might survive. He stupid dead hero. Me smart living disgraced. ^^
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post Mar 21 2006, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (hyzmarca)
Why of course they would, but they are ordered not to by commanders who don't care if they live or die, you see. As compensation their death scenes will be immortalized in simsense and in action figure form.

Still sounds way to unrealistic to me... no corp-exec or commander would order his command of professional, highly trained and expensive soldiers together with multi-million Nuyen equipment to be destroyed just out of fear of some media-coverage.

Especially if you got the choise between

"Ares Desert Foxes whipped out by bunch of pre-teen killer girls! World's largest military corp humilated by Mitsuhama's kindergarden!"

and

"Unknown sniper takes down killer-kids!".

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And who expects soldiers to comply to an order that means their certain death? I am sorry, but this is way too much anime in SR for me.

[...]

It is the choice between a certain death and the slight possibility of escape. Someone following the order might be hero. But I might survive. He stupid dead hero. Me smart living disgraced. ^^^

100% my opinion.

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post Mar 21 2006, 10:26 AM
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If I was another corp in desert wars I would run a public campaign vilifying the corp that put little girls in the combat and then arrange for my troupes to “be forced to defend themselves”, the footage of that fight would make it very clear who the attacker was and I my troupes would be ordered to “make it look like your trying not to kill them” lots of suppressive fire, flash bang grenades. But ultimately there was no choice but to bring out powerful ordinance

I would also hint in my publicity campaign that the girls had been on some form of personofix chip to make them act that way. Of cause there was no evidence, there headwear wiped itself on there death.

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post Mar 21 2006, 10:29 AM
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No corp would send such kid-combat-drones into the Desert Wars the first place. Sending children to war IS bad PR. And Desert Wars is not about small anime cuties, but about units of professional soldiers battling each other with hight tech epuipment in scenarios that are mostly simulated.
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post Mar 21 2006, 01:42 PM
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Whatever company butchered up 3 kids to send them into a warzone would defintely suffer from negative backlash. Look at how people feel about childhood soldiers in Afghanistan.

If these monsters were put into desert wars, then what is stopping a merc company from using stun weaponry to neutralize them? stun grenades, squirts and other meassures. They are kids ... wired to the 9's but they will still have a low body.

A nice stun bolt or two will drop them.
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post Mar 21 2006, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE (Nyx- @ Mar 21 2006, 01:16 AM)
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To quell the morality police and excite the bloodthirsty they'd proably give these girls fake backstories that paint them as bloodthirsty killers from the Barrens who can't fit into civilizedsociety because they are so brutally violent. [...]

Also, a cute cyborg girl with a gyromounted minigun is still a cyborg with a gyromounted minigun.

And so no one of the soldiers and mercenaries involved into the Desert Wars would drop a shell on them or let a sniper do his job?
I doubt it, unless DW has a comedy spin-off... ;)

Desert Wars IS a comedy. It's also porn.

And I just think that this idea is totally ridonculous.

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Whatever company butchered up 3 kids to send them into a warzone would defintely suffer from negative backlash.  Look at how people feel about childhood soldiers in Afghanistan.

... and Africa, and Israel, and Iraq, and ... And...

By which I assume you mean, "They don't." I mean, come on! You expect people to actually follow the news?! Are you nuts?
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post Mar 21 2006, 03:04 PM
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Ok. Even in a dystopian world, I just can't see hardened mercenaries letting themselves get killed because they're ordered to not fight back. These are not "armies", these are mercenaries, hired by the megacorps, and given cool toys to play with. The key part of that is mercenaries.
The number one rule is survive.
Number two is get paid.
Number three is shoot the person who didn't pay you.

If you are getting orders that mean you will not survive, then you "did not receive those orders" and do what it takes to survive. If you don't get paid, shoot the person who hired you, and walk away. Maybe the dedicated corp troops would follow directives like that... but the instant someone outside of the corp got involved, show's over.
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post Mar 21 2006, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE (SL James)
QUOTE (Nyx- @ Mar 21 2006, 01:16 AM)
And so no one of the soldiers and mercenaries involved into the Desert Wars would drop a shell on them or let a sniper do his job?
I doubt it, unless DW has a comedy spin-off... ;)

Desert Wars IS a comedy. It's also porn.

well... no, AFAIR it's part simulation, part "real wargame"... I can't see much comedy in it and almost no porn.

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And I just think that this idea is totally ridonculous.

Well... yes! ;)

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post Mar 21 2006, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (Nyx-)
well... no, AFAIR it's part simulation, part "real wargame"... I can't see much comedy in it and almost no porn.


You... don't ... You don't see how it and The Battle Channel are pornographic?

And to quote George Carlin, "Fuck you! I think it's hilarious!"
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QUOTE (Dawnshadow)
The number one rule is survive.
Number two is get paid.
Number three is shoot the person who didn't pay you.

I love it .... we should compile a list of rules.
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