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Mar 23 2006, 04:56 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 17-March 06 Member No.: 8,387 |
does this exist in 4th edition? if not, is there any reason not to buy as much ware as possible and get your essense down to 0.1 or so?
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Mar 23 2006, 04:59 AM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
Not officially no. It never really existed, but its something that gets touched on a few times. It also manafests it self in social penalties (though I dont know if this holes true in sr4)
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Mar 23 2006, 01:05 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587 |
Cyber psychosis was never an SR concept. It belongs in the cyberpunk game.
In SR3 you took penalties in social tests where your cyber wear obviously set you apart because of how the other person reacted to you. If you where talking to a cyber fetishist the penalty isn’t there (you may get a bonus) A cyber zombie had psychological issues but that may relate to the fact that there spirit thinks its body is dead and is confused as to why it can’t leave. Edward |
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Mar 23 2006, 07:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 834 Joined: 30-June 03 Member No.: 4,832 |
it actually falls into the Roleplaying side of things in SR, there are no rules, but that doesn't mean you can't play it.
I can see the bumper sticker now "I don't suffer from cyber psycosis, I enjoy every millisecond of it!" |
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Mar 23 2006, 07:14 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis? Yes, I've been looking for the smallest reason to ask that. Functionally, right now the only downside to having a low Essence as a mundane is that you lose a few dice when healing. That is, the Heal spell works less effectively on you and extended healing tests are harder. As a side note, if you've got a reallyreally low Body, Willpower, and Essence you apparently would be incapable of healing on your own without medical assistance. Fun, eh? EDIT: Oh! And per the social modifiers table, if someone is obviously dangerous-looking for some reason (they're much bigger than you, they have a gun pointed at your head, they're an obvious chrome deathmachine, or the like) then they get +2 to their Intimidate rolls. |
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Mar 23 2006, 07:25 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Even Cyberpunk abandoned the concept. All over the genre, the move seems to be towards a more "Cyberware makes you magically taste bad and is somewhat bad for your health" rather than the early eighties "prosthetic arms turn you into an inhuman killer robot!" Personally, I'm thrilled. The idea that implanted cell phones turned people into soulless killing machines was always retarded. -Frank |
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Mar 23 2006, 07:41 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
But what if they are AI controlled Octopus arms directly connected to your spine? :grinbig: |
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Mar 24 2006, 09:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 327 Joined: 28-January 06 Member No.: 8,209 |
Whenever I see someone make this particular typo, I get mental images of "cyber wear" fashion shows, kinda like springwear fashion shows. |
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Mar 24 2006, 09:53 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
I liked cyberpsychosis, myself... it wasn't the physical implantation of a random device directly causing a distinct psychological aberrancy. Rather, the psychological implications of looking at yourself and saying "Jeez... there's really not that much left of me that's human." That's why things like cyberweapons always had a distinctly high Humanity cost in CP, compared to the fairly size-related Essence costs they have in SR... I think a lot of people would agree with me that having a cel phone built into your jawbone is going to have less of an effect on you psychologically then having a foot-long blade tucked in between your radius and your ulna.
CP also had therapy... depending on how much time (and money) you put into it, you could get up to half of the Humanity cost back on your 'ware (although most 'Punks didn't have the time or the inclination to spend a few weeks in Inpatient Therapy in a clinic somewhere). Shadowrun's "grades" of cyberware feel like a simple imitation of that. |
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Mar 24 2006, 09:57 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,635 Joined: 27-November 05 Member No.: 8,006 |
Until those damn telemarketers get hold of the number. :P |
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Mar 24 2006, 10:17 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
Yeah, or you can't figure out how to change the ring tone from "The Girl from Ipanema."
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Mar 24 2006, 10:33 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Actually, owners of cell phones are usually much more psychologically influenced by those than owners of knives. ;) |
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Mar 24 2006, 10:42 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
I know that I would find a spur much less psycologically stressful than a headware cellphone.
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Mar 24 2006, 11:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 19-January 04 Member No.: 5,992 |
A spur can't call you at 3 AM, asking if you'd like to change providers.
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Mar 26 2006, 12:01 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 25-February 06 Member No.: 8,307 |
... that was in the Technomancy book, right? But I thought there were actual modifiers listed for having Essence below 1. Am I hallucinating again? Can anybody confirm or deny? |
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Mar 26 2006, 12:14 AM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
It wasn't therapy, quite clearly it was only available in scandanavia, so was due to the life affirming effect of six foot blonde nurses :D For the record I hate cyberpsychosis, some people should go nuts from having cyber fitted nut not everyone, I always felt the body being overloaded with alien material killing you was more realistic. Then aagain I hate the Punk system. |
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Mar 26 2006, 12:56 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
there was main book therapy which could get it all back SLOOOOOWLY or get it back fast and remove the cyber
there was chrome 2 therapy which could get up to half back and did not preclude main book therapy then there were swedish nurses whichmade you not lose any humanity on an average set of rolls |
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Mar 26 2006, 01:15 AM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
Ah brain dancing isn't it?
I just remember the nurses :P |
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Apr 6 2006, 12:18 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,401 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 6,099 |
Hmm. Unless I'm missing something in my first read through, SR4 also seems to have gotten rid of alot of the detrimental side effects of bioware, like sensory penalties for orthoskin, and having to take anticoagulants or risk strokes with platelet factories. Yay :)
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Apr 6 2006, 12:27 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
improving tech perhaps? I'm still looking forward to what's happening with move-by-wire
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Apr 6 2006, 12:33 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
A munchkin's dream, I'm afraid.
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Apr 6 2006, 02:08 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
Ortho still decreases touch sensitivity, IIRC. But yay indeed on the platelet factories. It got to the point where I just had that auto-injector implant as a package deal with the old platelet factory. |
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Apr 6 2006, 03:37 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Not really, it is just only virtually indistinguisable from normal skin. |
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Apr 6 2006, 04:07 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 12-January 05 From: Brazil, RN, Natal (Also known as Amazonia) Member No.: 6,968 |
No, but with a spur AND a implanted cellphone, if a telemarketer calls you at 3 AM, you can go to the call center and gently explain him that if you don´t have your 8-hour-straight sleep, your cyberware makes you want to stop all those fragile bags of blood and spit of coughing around you, with their... meat... smelling, like it´s already dead or just about to die. He´ll understand when he sees your blood-shot eyes and the 10-inch blades sprouting from your hands. I guarantee. |
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Apr 6 2006, 07:18 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
Musta been my Prior-Edition Bleedover Syndrome acting up. I sit corrected. |
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