 The future of bottle beverages, Welcome to the world of tomorrow! Sorta. |
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 Mar 31 2006, 03:42 AM
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Chicago Survivor  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033  |
In Alabama we called that a suicide as well.
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Mar 31 2006, 05:08 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
But do these programable drinks taste the same as the factory mixed variety?
Heck, tap water tastes different depending on what label you put on the bottle. |
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Mar 31 2006, 05:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 19-January 04 Member No.: 5,992 |
Not to mention the quality of the bottle itself. Store-brand water usually uses cheap bottles that bleed into the water or something. Better bottles are thicker plastic, or in the case of my favorite foo-foo fancy mineral waters, glass.
Before I moved to the middle of BFE, I wouldn't have even thought of buying bottled water. But when the stuff that comes out of the tap is some of the most foul-smelling sludge imaginable, it's worth blowing a couple of bucks on a double-filtration system. |
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Mar 31 2006, 06:08 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
You don't have to be in BFE for that. I live in a "city" surrounded on all sides by another city. The water at my house tastes like someone poured dirt into it.
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Mar 31 2006, 07:28 AM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
Possibly. In Seattle, we called them "graveyards". At least we did in the 70's. I'm not so sure nowadays.
Pretty much. A soda machine at your local fast food joint has a large keg of carbonated water, and several boxes of syrup. They get mixed at a point just before the nozzle. Apparently it preserves better, or some such thing. |
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Mar 31 2006, 07:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 19-January 04 Member No.: 5,992 |
I'd think the mixing right before the nozzle is more so you don't have to throw out old soda that doesn't get used if nobody uses that particular syrup.
If they mixed it all up beforehand, it'd eventually get flat. |
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Mar 31 2006, 07:33 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Halifax, Canada Member No.: 7,975 |
There's some kind of organic compound in our water.. just goes right through me - if you get my meaning.
Bottled water delivered by truck every 2 weeks and a personal water cooler is the solution we use :) Seeing as the flavour beeds would be the syrup compound (What you usually get in tanks for commercial use) it would pretty much taste the same as buying the finished product already mixed. I say pretty much seeing as you'd have to make sure the syrup fully dilutes into the drink to get the full flavour, otherwise it'll vary in concentration if not mixed well. |
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Mar 31 2006, 02:40 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
In other words, this new soda will taste as different from normal soda as fountain soda tastes from normal water. Except there's a much smaller chance of there being poo or hair in the water if you get it in these bottles. |
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Mar 31 2006, 03:20 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,428 Joined: 9-June 02 Member No.: 2,860 |
It's not just the material costs, but the industrial tooling involved. Plastic soda bottles (2L, 20oz, whatever) are made by taking a thick-walled "blank" that looks like a plastic syringe or test tube, heating it, and inflating it like balloons in a mold. It's a simple operation. You'd need additional manufacturing steps to add separate, sealed, crushable/squirtable compartments. |
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Mar 31 2006, 03:35 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
It amuses me that we're still talking about this. :)
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Apr 1 2006, 12:52 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
They were Graveyards here in the 90s, too (I'm 24 now, so not so sure about the '00s). |
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Apr 1 2006, 01:07 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 25-February 06 Member No.: 8,307 |
OK...
I grew up in Jersey (thank you, I'll kick my own ass later ;) ) and we called'em suicides as well I'm in the FW part of DFW in the lovely Pier 1 Place, living on the edge of Benbrook... those of us in these parts should get together and talk "shop" I worked at a coffee shop, and we made Italian Sodas, using club soda and the syrups they use for teas and coffees. Those were great, and you can get flavors that Dr Pepper, Coke and Pepsi don't make. My 2 cred on the bottle? It'll never work, because they won't be able to have "Lemon Cherry MonkeyAss" as a limited edition flavor to drive up sales. Also, they like to make you "choose" a flavor. We get "cola wars" and cool TV spots, and people get to feel that they're special based on the label of their beverage of choice (which isn't true, but the marketing gurus think people care like that) Bottoms Up! [Edit: Also, how would you mix it? Shake it up? All in all though, I could see other applications using this tech, like kids candies (baby bottle pops and the like) and I want to thank Azralon for finding this, 'cause I love NuTech! ] |
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Apr 1 2006, 04:54 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
You're more than welcome. I keep tabs on all sorts of wacky technostuff and I figure mentioning the SR-ish doohickeys here ain't a bad thing. |
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Apr 1 2006, 10:27 AM
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Decker on the Threshold Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 |
I see this working better for medicines and vitamins and such. Alka Seltzer-in-a-bottle, or that Airborne vitamin brew. In my opinion ronin3338 hit it on the head why this won't really hit it big in the beverage market. The problem is choice: you're asking someone to think about what they want to drink after they've made the purchase. Sorry if this takes too dim a view on human nature, but when most people buy their drinks that's when they want to know what they're drinking, not after. People are afraid and in many cases intimidated by too many choices. Most false dichotomies like vanilla vs. chocolate, Democrat vs. Republican, Coke vs Pepsi, Us vs Them develop to simplify choices.
These guys want to add more choices to something that should be simple. Doomed. |
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Apr 1 2006, 05:37 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,428 Joined: 9-June 02 Member No.: 2,860 |
Incidentally, mixed sodas were referred to as "suicides" in Florida in the 1980s and early 1990s.
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Apr 1 2006, 08:15 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
ronin: did you ever game at Grand Slam before it closed?
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Apr 1 2006, 08:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 25-February 06 Member No.: 8,307 |
The one on S Williams? Yeah, I played some Magic there. Mostly though, I hung around talking to Jim and buying comics :)
I liked that place much better than Lone Star (where I worked for a few years) |
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Apr 4 2006, 05:17 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 418 |
Another reason for it not to work is shelf space. One reason food companies come out with so many flavors and sizes has less to do with offering choice as it does with dominating a section of a store. Not only does it force you to look at their brands a greater percentage of the time (making it more likely that you'll purchase from them), but it also forces the retailer to keep a greater supply on hand (You have to buy it in cases, after all). It's a win-win situation, even if they have to pay a monkey to reformulate some bizarre concoction and advertise it every few months. At least it helps keep the ads fresh - how many times could we watch ads about how much better Coke is? Diet Crystal Superfine Black Cherry Vanilla LiveWire Hyperpowered Coke Blue with Limon can inspire even the dumbest of ad agencies to come up with something new to get your attention. Besides - you'll always buy at least one bottle. Who wants to be left out?
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Apr 4 2006, 06:08 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
And let's not forget the wonders of Augmented Reality. I'm thinking of a container with a built-in ARO that plays the company jingle when opened, perhaps with an accompanying visual display.
Heh. Have the hacker set the Lone Star squad's commlinks to active mode, and then have the troll toss a couple cases of NERPS Cola into their general vicinity. |
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Apr 4 2006, 07:16 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
When was your Magic time there? I'm the guy in all the pictures on the wall of winners. :)
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Apr 4 2006, 12:02 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 2-April 06 Member No.: 8,425 |
There are other Fort Worthies here? I'm up by Saginaw (and very, very new to the boards...) |
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Apr 4 2006, 08:18 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
We could use a 4th player on Fridays, any Forrt Worthers interested? We usually cycle through games, from D&D to Wrhammer FRPG to Rolemaster to Shadowrun, with a little Silcore and hopefully soem Spacemaster thrown in here pretty soon.
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Apr 5 2006, 01:03 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 2-April 06 Member No.: 8,425 |
Silicore? But yeah, I'm interested if you're looking for another player. :)
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Apr 5 2006, 01:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 25-February 06 Member No.: 8,307 |
Let's see... it would have been mid 90's? Since I never won, no picture for me :( If I remember right, it was around the Ice Age expansion/basic set that I played there the most. |
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Apr 5 2006, 01:27 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Ah, before my Magic time there (I was a late 90s) guy).
Silcore: shorthand for the Silhouette Core rules. I've never played it until recently. It's a fairly generic and easy system one of the guys is using to run a game based on Necromunda (which I also never played). We're gaming this Friday (usually from ~5:00pm to some time in the AM depending on the game). Zip me an email at jt_mcmurray at hotmail dot com |
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